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Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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Unlike the NOTAM outage, a METAR outage will and should actually affect flights. Without weather at your destination it becomes impossible to know if it’s safe to land there. The forecasts (TAF) are actually used more in flight planning, but actual weather is very valuable while enroute, when not close enough to hear weather over the radio from the destination airport.

Yep. Not knowing the atmospheric pressure can lead to planes crashing, especially if it's inclement weather.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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post #15

Serious question: At what point does the failure of government services warrant the partial withholding of taxes? This isn't sufficient of course but when the FAA repeatedly demonstrates incompetence, when do we eventually just tell them no, you can't have any more of my money, you're obviously wasting it and making us worse off?

Others have poked holes in the general line of thought here, so I won’t repeat their points. But also, the uptime for these services seems really quite good. I mean an outage is rare enough that it makes national news. Imagine if they’d hosted on any of the big corporate cloud services with billions of dollars to throw at infrastructure — they would have had multiple outages during our lifetimes just based on their provider doing down.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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post #32
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the conservative playbook. Cut funding until the entity can't run properly, then yell JEEZ GUYS YOU REALLY SUCK wHY DON'T WE SHUT YOU DOWN The previous president significantly cut the FAA's budget, maybe we're just seeing now how that affects us in the long term

Aka the “I’m going to break all my toys to force mommy to buy me new ones I like better” mentality, projected into chronological adulthood.

Not quite. This is more like breaking all the toys in the playpen because you don't like that other kids get to play with them.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just swap civil services budget with military budget. Imagine what NASA would do in ten years with Pentagon's budget swapped.

Done. NASA's budget is now $0 though, since the military budget all went to Medicare with nothing left to spare for anything else. Along with the FAA and every other government department.

Citation needed?

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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post #25
post #15

Serious question: At what point does the failure of government services warrant the partial withholding of taxes? This isn't sufficient of course but when the FAA repeatedly demonstrates incompetence, when do we eventually just tell them no, you can't have any more of my money, you're obviously wasting it and making us worse off?

This is the conservative playbook. Cut funding until the entity can't run properly, then yell JEEZ GUYS YOU REALLY SUCK wHY DON'T WE SHUT YOU DOWN The previous president significantly cut the FAA's budget, maybe we're just seeing now how that affects us in the long term

I'm not a conversative.

Presidents don't pass budgets.

FAA funding has increased, not decreased.

I can criticize my government all I want. You're turning this into a political party thing when it's a government service failure.

Re: Nationwide FAA weather reporting outage

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post #15

Serious question: At what point does the failure of government services warrant the partial withholding of taxes? This isn't sufficient of course but when the FAA repeatedly demonstrates incompetence, when do we eventually just tell them no, you can't have any more of my money, you're obviously wasting it and making us worse off?

If we didn't get to withhold for the decades of bipartisanly meandering Iraq and Afghan war strategies, we definitely don't get to do it for a brief outage of the FAA's weather reporting system. Especially when evaluating the FAA would need to include the absolutely stellar commercial aviation safety record they and the NTSB have created over the last few decades.

I think we should have been able to withhold for unnecessary foreign wars.
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