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I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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This triggered me to DuckDuckGo my own site and immediately I notice the top result is someone rehosting my OSS on a page loaded with pages of crap SEO content. Scrolling further, I don’t seem to find my own site either… https://donatstudios.com I’ve added my site into Bing webmaster tools, we’ll see if it helps I guess.

Wow. I think I've used your circle generator on that other site without realizing it. That sucks. I've bookmarked yours now!

A bunch of sites popped up hosting it loaded with SEO garbage and ads. I’d licensed it MIT so while they certainly can, it sure doesn’t feel nice.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #36
post #16

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XSLT is a template language where you match snippets of XML using XPath expressions and output... anything else, in this case HTML using templates that can make use of the attributes, inner content, etc. of the captured XML portion. "An elegant weapon for a more... civilized age."

I would never call XSLT elegant, it is horrible IMO.

XSLT may well be the worst possible implementation of an elegant underlying concept.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #17

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Yes. Unfortunately people increasingly use "shadow ban" to just mean "ban", perhaps it sounds cool?

Elon wants to redefine the term as well but for the purpose of a coordinated witch hunt. People like using shadow ban because it sounds more malicious vs. content that is no longer actively promoted by a company. It's hard to claim you're a victim if the reason is you're just not that interesting or popular.

There is difference between "content that is no longer actively promoted by a company" and "the company explicitly put your content on a no-show list". Sure, it's not shadow banning but "just" stealth banning (as you're still not informed that you got banned, or reason for it), but banning nonetheless

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #18

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I can find Beej.us with DDG, but not daverupert.com. Maybe Beej got the problem resolved somehow.

He says in the link it’s specifically the C guide, the rest of the website is fine. Though... yeah, DDG queries like “beej c guide strlen” give reasonable results for me, if with an unjustifiably high-ranked position for the mirror at http://docs.hfbk.net/beej.us . Bing ones only include the mirror and the other guides (and a Scribd-hosted PDF copy, of all things, as the first result below a huge navigation card refe…

https://beej.us/guide/bgclr/ is the 2nd result for "beej's c", with first being site's homepage.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #29

This is not a shadow ban. A shadow ban is when it appears to you that you are not banned, but from others perspective you are.

Is there also a term for being algorithmically suppressed on a social media platform, I wonder? I.e. a much more subtle, harder to dectect mechanism whereby the algorithms ensure you get some exposure, but never the same as other unsuppressed people would get based on similar activity. Or only exposure to a certain limited subset of the graph based on some metrics (e.g. just your 'friends' so no one points out you ar…

I think unlike in the case here, (soft) shadow banning would be appropriate to describe it, even though not 100% technical correct.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #41

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Wow. I think I've used your circle generator on that other site without realizing it. That sucks. I've bookmarked yours now!

A bunch of sites popped up hosting it loaded with SEO garbage and ads. I’d licensed it MIT so while they certainly can, it sure doesn’t feel nice.

Same thing happened with StackExchange and Wikipedia, but they appear to have fixed it.

Re: I'm shadow banned by DuckDuckGo and Bing

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon wants to redefine the term as well but for the purpose of a coordinated witch hunt. People like using shadow ban because it sounds more malicious vs. content that is no longer actively promoted by a company. It's hard to claim you're a victim if the reason is you're just not that interesting or popular.

Well if you are silently placed on a hide list (by manual human intervention without you being able to know without a third party), then by all means that is a shadow ban. Edit for clarity.

That would be silent ban (if you're not getting informend that you are, or reason for it), or just plain ban.

Shadow ban is explicity "pretend to user they are not banned, but don't show it to everyone else"

Like say getting shadow banned on reddit or HN, you will see your stuff when you're logged in, but anonymous or other people wont.

Search equivalent would be you getting your own site when you're searching but nobody else does

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