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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by nicolaslem »

schaefer wrote: post #27
piinbinary wrote: post #2

This feels like somewhat unfortunate timing, with AMD's 7000 series mobile CPUs just around the corner.

You really have to do your homework with the new AMD processor rebranding. It's super easy to think your getting the latest and greatest, only to end up with Vega 2 graphics like the 5000 series from years ago. I had to whiteboard it to keep it all straight myself. When I look at AMD's new mobile lineup for 2023, and I didn't notice anything "new" in the U-series power profile (15 watts tdp). I'd be more than happy w…

> Let me know if you think there's a specific 7000 series chip I've overlooked.

The 7040 series, which is Zen 4 & RDNA 3 (so not a Rembrandt refresh) should be available for "thin and light" laptops.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by dsr_ »

nicolaslem wrote: post #31
toast0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If 4k is 3840 × 2160, 1920 × 1080 is 2k, FYI

Nope, 1440p is known as 2k because it is twice the amount of pixels as 1080p.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/2k-definition,37641.html

Says that the DCI definition of 2K is 2048x1080, and that 2560x1440 should be called QHD or WQHD. (Quad = 4x, HD = 1280x720).

And this aligns with the usage I am accustomed to.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by gibspaulding »

doix wrote: post #19
yoyohello13 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 14in screen is barely perceptible to me. I'd rather have the extra battery life.

I run my 1440p screen at 1080p because my portable monitor is 1080p and I don't want to try and setup different scaling on different screens in X or move to Wayland. I'm happy enough.

Not sure why you're getting down voted. This seems like a valid point. I'd also note that if you are connected to a larger 1440p external display, 1080p on the smaller one keeps the dpi closer so you don't have to use different scaling settings.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by jesuscript »

time_to_smile wrote: post #30
jesuscript wrote: post #7

What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. I imagine you can match their specs for this laptop at cheaper prices.

Wildly overpriced compared to building it yourself or compared to other PC building companies? I purchased a Thelio Mira awhile back and have been happier with it than any other PC/laptop I've owned before. The big value add that System76 is having a Linux desktop that is guaranteed to just work out of the box the same way you would expect and Apple machine to work out of the box. In fact, I've probably had less issu…

Wildly overpriced compared to building it yourself or compared to other PC building companies?

Both actually, the markup is extremely high on their stuff if you try to get a gaming rig from them.

I built all my PCs since I was 13, and I can say it's not as involved as people think. You really kinda screw in the motherboard, pop in a cpu, and a graphics card/ssd (or if you have no need for a discrete GPU and you get one of those CPUs with decent integrated graphics, you are basically only popping in a CPU). There is like two wires that go from your PSU to mobo at best. The thing is pc hardware prices are already absurd since Covid, so when you add in this extra markup on labor, you are just getting something that's way beyond normal prices. You might look at a $1600 price tag and scoff at it as nothing, but its really a $800 dollar machine with all this extra stuff added or marked up. I've seen people look at $2000 pre built machines and just think they are crazy for buying at that price. It's like ... I don't even think its a money thing, it's like a scammy thing. Imagine if I show up and sell you a iPhone 10 at iphone 14 prices. It's the principle of the matter.

You know, there are some afternoons where I don't know what to do with myself. Setting up/building a PC is an hour for me. If it's new to you, it might be an afternoons worth of work. It's not an endless multi day fiasco, I promise.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by wmf »

schaefer wrote: post #27
piinbinary wrote: post #2

This feels like somewhat unfortunate timing, with AMD's 7000 series mobile CPUs just around the corner.

You really have to do your homework with the new AMD processor rebranding. It's super easy to think your getting the latest and greatest, only to end up with Vega 2 graphics like the 5000 series from years ago. I had to whiteboard it to keep it all straight myself. When I look at AMD's new mobile lineup for 2023, and I didn't notice anything "new" in the U-series power profile (15 watts tdp). I'd be more than happy w…

Huh, you're right; there's no 7x4xU. But a 15.6" laptop should have an HS processor anyway. System76 is cheaping out by using a 6800U.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by teodorlu »

BillinghamJ wrote: post #17
CoastalCoder wrote: post #8

Would it make sense to change the title? I read it to be about people who bought AMD-only laptops from System76, needing to return them to System76 for some reason.

"Reintroduced"

I think "reintroduced" makes sense.

I thought there were factory problems, a page with information about product returns, and possibly a story around that.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by coder543 »

toast0 wrote: post #29
IronWolve wrote: post #9

Needs a 2k screen, wont go back to 1080p...

If 4k is 3840 × 2160, 1920 × 1080 is 2k, FYI

This is 100% correct.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution

> Another resolution that is often referred to as 2K is 2560 × 1440 (1440p) however that is a common mistake in marketing[12] and is called QHD by the DCI.

It is a mistake to refer to 2560x1440 as 2K.

People calling 1080p "2K" is a pet peeve of mine. 2.5K is a more appropriate name for 2560x1440, if you want to use that naming convention, but I think just saying 1440p is simpler.

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