Amazing that there are businesses that do so well financially they can abuse their customers to the point of hatred, yet remain in business.
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Deere to allow farmers to repair their own equipment
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#43> Should state or federal right-to-repair legislation be enacted, both Deere and the federation have the right to withdraw from the agreement with 15 days’ written notice. Would be useful to compare the terms of this agreement with draft right-to-repair legislation which has been rejected by Deere and others.
I am sure this is meant to head that off if possible. Not unlike how the record companies gave in to the "Parental Advisory" label.
> I am sure this is meant to head that off if possible.
Indeed, and they’re not making a secret of it, see vvanders’ comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34307382
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#44Amazing that there are businesses that do so well financially they can abuse their customers to the point of hatred, yet remain in business.
That's all social media companies, basically.
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#45Too little too late. They have burned good faith, and this move stinks of more manipulation. As others suggested, this probably aims to thwart legislative action, and they will make everything available at an inaccessibly exorbitant price point and inexcusable lead times. Seriously, Deere has been a market leader in alienating customers for years. There is no possibility that this is being done for the benefit of the…
this probably aims to thwart legislative action
In the event any state or federal legislation or regulation relating to issues covered by this MOU and/or "Right to Repair" is enacted, each of AFBF and Manufacturer reserve the right, upon fifteen (15) days written notice, to withdraw from this MOU.
It's a blatant threat that they'll double down on their practices if any state or the federal government tries to pursue right to repair legislation.
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#46Too little too late. They have burned good faith, and this move stinks of more manipulation. As others suggested, this probably aims to thwart legislative action, and they will make everything available at an inaccessibly exorbitant price point and inexcusable lead times. Seriously, Deere has been a market leader in alienating customers for years. There is no possibility that this is being done for the benefit of the…
this probably aims to thwart legislative action probably? From Section 3 of the MOU: In the event any state or federal legislation or regulation relating to issues covered by this MOU and/or "Right to Repair" is enacted, each of AFBF and Manufacturer reserve the right, upon fifteen (15) days written notice, to withdraw from this MOU. https://www.fb.org/files/AFBF_John_Deere_MOU.pdf It's a blatant threat that they'll…
The easy fix here is to make clauses like this unenforceable in the right to repair bills. Not that they’ll do it, but law outranks contracts.
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#47Seeing "to allow" and "their own" being used in that way in the title is a disturbingly dystopian sign of the times. I don't think things like this should ever need to be explicitly allowed, in much the same way as one does not need permission for many other things which are naturally assumed to be so. For contrast: "Government to allow people to use their own brains."
Hell If I had my way I'd add a "right to root" in the Constitution itself. You should have control over your hardware, period.
"right to root" does not translate very well here in (nominally-English-speaking) Australia!
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#48Amazing that there are businesses that do so well financially they can abuse their customers to the point of hatred, yet remain in business.
It's a pity that people are content to just quietly hate from home. If we had the gumption to get off our asses and sabotage our enemies I think the world would be a better place.
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#49Too little too late. They have burned good faith, and this move stinks of more manipulation. As others suggested, this probably aims to thwart legislative action, and they will make everything available at an inaccessibly exorbitant price point and inexcusable lead times. Seriously, Deere has been a market leader in alienating customers for years. There is no possibility that this is being done for the benefit of the…
But who would replace them?
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#50What even are the alternatives for farmers, particularly in the US where I presume Deere reigns supreme. Kubota, Kverneland? Or is it effectively a racket where every agricultural equipment manufacturer behaves the same.