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Vandals destroy 30k-year-old indigenous cave drawings in Australia
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#42My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
I'd be shocked if a couple of derro kids were aware of what was going on in their own backyard, let alone the other side of the world.
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#43My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
I don’t think so. The climate change stunts didn’t actually destroy anything as they only glued themselves/threw soup on the glass coverings. If they were really looking at it they’d see the different between that and this sort of irreversible damage.
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#44Selfish and disrespectful, stealing from the past and the future.
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#45My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
The climate change protestors did nothing wrong. We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out . There is literally nothing else anywhere near as important. Literally everything matters less. To equate those two things is disingenuous and offensive.
Attention won't help. We have loads of attention.
Tesla started 15 years ago, which is when it needed to to push through all the incredible issues needed to be solved to have electric cars being viable.
We are seeing great breakthroughs in renewables, and - partly thanks to Putin, ironically possibly the top attention-raiser - in nuclear, as burning gas beats burning coal, but not when someone else can turn off the tap.
People glueing their hands to priceless paintings do not feature in any of these decades-long progressions. They convince no one who isn't already convinced, and put everyone else off.
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#46Let’s hope these fuckers are stupid enough to post on social media. The punishment should be 10 years, not 6 months.
Eh, maybe that's taking it all a little too seriously. For all we know, the original art was the work of some ancient hooligans.
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#47Pretty unfortunate and disrespectful. Sort of emblematic of Australian bogan culture however. For some reason Australian teenagers are among the worst in this regard. As someone that grew up in country Australia this really doesn't surprise me at all.
Contributing factor is that racism against indigenous Australians is somewhat fueled by the same sort of rhetoric that became popular in the Trump election campaign. Notably that the white poor feel they have been short-changed by legislation that they see unfairly benefits the non-white poor. Also the prior government was much like Trumps administration in they normalized a lot of right wing opinions that were previously looked down upon here, emboldening these twats.
Personally I don't feel a lot of love for either camp (the indigenous Australians I interacted with didn't do themselves any favors) but 30k yr old art is still art so it's disrespectful all the same.
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#48It's a shame that this happened, but it's not unsurprising. If you put a probability of loss on every relic of antiquity, they multiply out to a substantial amount of destruction every year. Ultimately it's a matter of cost. The cost to secure all of these pieces is extremely high. We won't be able to safeguard everything, but there are probably low hanging fruit in applying basic security measures to the items most…
Another comment suggests that the Mirning people wanted to volunteer to protect it, but the local government was restricting their access. So while cost may play a part, there was also an issue of lack of concern from the government.
There are liability issues with volunteers which make it impractical for government to agree to that formally. They essentially have to be contracted or employed in some form. It has been a rent seeking strategy in many instances.
A better strategy would be to properly fund the park ranger service, many of which are indigenous anyway, and commit to a specified level of surveillance and patrol. Rangers have powers to expel people from park areas and know how to liaise with police, but general cost cutting has reduced their effectiveness. Park rangers can also legitimately patrol cultural sites on private land without causing issues with farmers (cattle rustling is still a thing).
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it possible that the teenagers did not know that the "scratchings" (for lack of a better term) were actually ancient and wise and sacred and enlightened aboriginal art?
> The vandals forced their way past barbed wire and dug under a steel gate to get into the Koonalda Caves I’m going to say they had some strong clues.
That's not my point. Yes they were aware of the cave. But they wrote something over wavy lines in limestone that could actually pass for a natural feature.
In any case yes it's probably stupid for them to write something there without consulting with their elders.
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#50My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
The climate change protestors did nothing wrong. We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out . There is literally nothing else anywhere near as important. Literally everything matters less. To equate those two things is disingenuous and offensive.
That makes no sense. How is defacing art helping fight climate change? How does that reduce emissions or remove CO2 from the atmosphere? It doesn't. Also, it's terrible PR for anyone advocating for people to change behaviour in order to reduce their environmental impact. So, I think it's safe to say they are doing more harm than good.