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Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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This comment reads like something out of an Orwell book.

How accurate do you think it is to reduce human virtues, considerations etc to a model which simpliy splits the populations in two? Stop perpetuating football-team politics.

Also, the twitter account is still banned.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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This is about the hypocrisy over free speech not ‘the left’. But I suppose that won’t stop you from mindlessly rallying behind him no matter how hard he clowns you and everyone else for his own pleasure thinking he is somehow on ‘your side’. Just like someone else…

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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this is a myth perpetrated by Elon to justify his banning of twitter account, there is nothing private about tail information, in fact it is required to be publicly available.

I would have agreed and recently made the same argument on HN re the Twitter bans. What I’ve since learned however is that tracking his jet requires a combination of public and private information. He’s part of a privacy scheme which routinely changes the plane’s identifier: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/160385752457453... At that point, I think the argument that it’s doxxing is justified to some exten…

> What I’ve since learned however is that tracking his jet requires a combination of public and private information. He’s part of a privacy scheme which routinely changes the plane’s identifier: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/160385752457453...

My understanding is that he _stopped_ using this service and now his plane broadcasts the same tail number all the time.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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this is a myth perpetrated by Elon to justify his banning of twitter account, there is nothing private about tail information, in fact it is required to be publicly available.

Genuine question, IANAL: how is this different from car registration plates, which Google blurs out to avoid this kind of problem for normal people? Ditto all the data protection issues about ANPR systems. (This isn't to defended Musk, quite the contrary given he tweeted a number plate).

it's an interesting question actually.

we track planes for safety reasons. when a plane disappear from the radar, it's a big deal. an educated guess why cars aren't tracked is privacy and there are too many.

but in a world where cars are going to be electric, these problems might go away.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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Spot on, but to me it's rather sad, and I wish I didn't have to read about it here, since I have no interest in celebrity gossip

hackernews is one such place. they can post such nonsense on the homepage. and now they flagged my comment for being joking.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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>private information It is publicly available information.

Not exactly: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/160385752457453... What’s public is how each plane moves. What’s not is which one of these planes is Musk’s.

>hack

This is not "hacking". This is information derived from publicly available information, presumably a quite trivial inference. If it is public information that x=2 and y=3, then x+y=5 isn't suddenly private information, just because it requires a trivial inference.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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>[ Removed by reddit on account of violating the content policy. ] https://old.reddit.com/r/ElonJetTracker/comments/zofevu/remo... UPD Original post title via Google cache/Internet Archive: >Jet IS LIVE, TOOK OFF from [place], at [time] local time (PST), traveling [direction]. Tail [registration code]

so, the subreddit is up but the account removed? that's very weird.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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I’m not sure I qualify as a spokesperson for the entire “left” ;)

It seems a lot of people are pointing out the massive amounts of hypocrisy Elon is displaying, as well as how fickle & fragile the concept of free speech is when it comes up against the personal opinions of a billionaire.

Plus a democratic vote, which is definitely not what a Twitter poll is, controlling speech is exactly the thing that many on the (if we’re using labels) “right” objected to once a truly democratic vote (within a flawed process) delivered a government that they didn’t want. True freedom of speech is a fixed principle, not dictated by the whims of current powers, votes or Overton window.

Re: R/ElonJetTracker

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Could Musk successfully make the case that, despite this technically being public information, curating it in such a way to track him personally constitutes harassment?
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