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DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by Dylan16807 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #5

One of the reasons they want to increase price is because they have new features. Yet not every customer uses every new feature. Indeed, features are often used to bring in new customers. Sally wants eg live metrics, Bob needs a specific kind of weekly report. Now Acme co wants to increase the price to both Sally and Bob since there are more features, but Sally and Bob each only use a single feature. The other issue…

Also it feels like trying to have it both ways. Increasing your spending to get new features is the model of non-subscription software. And if people don't think it will make enough difference, they won't buy upgrades for years.

When you're paying a significant monthly fee, you're already paying for a supply of features and refinements.

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by slotrans »

DBT is a good (not great) tool, but DBT Cloud just doesn't provide any value, much less enough to justify $100/seat.

Unfortunately the business is doomed unless they can come up with a new business model. Two friends work there so I take no joy in this.

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Post by gumboza »

scosman wrote: post #38
dijit wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also: don't use Mailchimp. Noted. Alternatives that you rate?

Since it was price driven we went with AWS SES. We were high-volume low-value per email. A high-value low-volume use case might have better options. I’ve heard good things about sendgrid. Someone who gives a damn about delivery rate.

Can’t recommend SES. We have someone nearly full time managing the suppression list. We don’t even spam. These are just system notifications that the users need.

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by oxfordmale »

datalopers wrote: post #22
oxfordmale wrote: post #20

In a recession you learn who your true strategic partners are. It is fair enough that prices need to be increased in line with cost, however, a 100% increase with one month notice is #@#**. In our case it would be a 600% increase as this forces us onto the enterprise plan. Budgets for 2023 have already been agreed this late in the year, so this is a hard sell to the C suite. Our conclusion is that we can't rely on DB…

What is their cloud offering if it’s just sql templating? Why would anyone pay for that?

The cloud offering makes development easier for analysts, that are good at SQL, but not necessarily familiar with tools like VSCode. It is worth $50 per developer seat, however not $100 and definitely not $600 if you are onto the enterprise plan. For the enterprise, there are discounts available, however there is a high risk they won't be available in a in years time.

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by iamcreasy »

tehalex wrote: post #25

We had to abandon DBT cloud because it was very feature limited - it does the basics well though, so is a good starting point for most, but seems like it's easy to outgrow. The new metrics feature is tied to DBT cloud - probably because that is the only way they could get bigger users to get value from their hosted product and not just DIY it. (offering a largely propitiatory feature). However, I don't know what the…

What was the dbt replacement?

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by trumpeta »

pbowyer wrote: post #31

Can someone do a better job than the dbt homepage and explain what this is and _why I would need it?_ The pictures show SQL being generated using a templating language - when do I want that? From the other comments it's clearly popular but I've never come across it in use.

ELT approach means you copy raw data from transactional sources, events, external APIs and dump it in the first “layer” of your data warehouse.

Then you progressively clean it and model it into some format that is easily usable for dashboards or self service analytics.

To do that you build a DAG of SQL scripts and dbt makes that easy through templating, macros and automatically generated docs.

You still have to execute the DAG somehow and here you either use their OSS version and schedule it with anything from Github Actions to Airflow, OR you buy their Cloud offering

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by trumpeta »

tehalex wrote: post #25

We had to abandon DBT cloud because it was very feature limited - it does the basics well though, so is a good starting point for most, but seems like it's easy to outgrow. The new metrics feature is tied to DBT cloud - probably because that is the only way they could get bigger users to get value from their hosted product and not just DIY it. (offering a largely propitiatory feature). However, I don't know what the…

At what scale have you decided you’ve outgrown it?

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Post by mjirv »

pbowyer wrote: post #31

Can someone do a better job than the dbt homepage and explain what this is and _why I would need it?_ The pictures show SQL being generated using a templating language - when do I want that? From the other comments it's clearly popular but I've never come across it in use.

It’s (mostly) for data analytics teams, not software engineers.

They use it to transform raw data in their data warehouses into views/tables that people can use for analysis.

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by gizmodo59 »

cristiandima wrote: post #30

I appreciate the no bs hn submission title, it made me click the link just so I can read and laugh at the PR approved title. I was not disappointed: “Updating dbt Cloud pricing to support long-term community growth” - though I reckon they could have gotten “journey” in there as well.

This made me laugh..

“We actually get community members reaching out to us concerned that we are under-charging them because they want our business to be successful! “

May be it’s true but it’s beyond me that people are asking for a price increase??

Re: DBT Cloud increase Team plan price by 100% and limit features at the same time

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Post by Jgrubb »

pbowyer wrote: post #31

Can someone do a better job than the dbt homepage and explain what this is and _why I would need it?_ The pictures show SQL being generated using a templating language - when do I want that? From the other comments it's clearly popular but I've never come across it in use.

It is, for me and my team, a framework for building out and maintaining a data warehouse much like Rails is a framework for building out a web app.
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