If Elon can re-launch Vine in time, I could see this working out. US Government causes a mass TikTok exodus and everyone goes onto Vine.
everyone's going to go to Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts.
Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
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#42Seems like a good way to lose young voters. How hard would it be to spin-off TikTok USA into a separate entity?
Why spin it off? We already have a clone in the form of Instagram Reels. Also banning TikTok might set off a Cold War of banning each other’s apps and I have to think we would lose more in that scenario.
We are already in that cold war. We've just been too foolish to bite back when it comes to China.
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#43Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
China would not comply with the regulations. They would claim to and continuously violate them.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost certainly not, at least in this iteration - but Meta's stock is up ~6%, so it's not nothing
This makes me wonder how much Meta is financing any lobbying effort to get this passed?
Probably a lot, but it's also not an absurd policy direction. Folks from all over have floated the vague notion that Tiktok is bad, independent of Meta. Rs tried to do it a few years ago, but implementation as a disaster.
I'd imagine the lobbying effort would be less "briefcase full of cash" and more "can we hire smart people to think through policy mechanisms, in a way that's productive for both Rs & Ds"
Though there's probably also a couple briefcases lmao
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#45Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
mrtksn/OP [1] is arguing that you shouldn't just do a tit-for-tat ban on China.
You should figure out what part of what the Chinese apps are doing that you don't like and ban that behavior. Otherwise this year its Tik-Tok from China and next year it's Click-Clock from UAE. Instead ban a behavior and you don't have to play whack-a-mole with countries/apps.
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#47This a a press release from Republican Senator Rubio from Florida and doesn't belong in this forum.
Why? There are plenty of Republicans on HN.
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#48Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
TikTok already stores its data in the US and gives the US authorities full access to it.
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#49Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
I agree with the overall sentiment. If it's a country in the EU it's valid. In China though, no one has any control or say on systems and controls. You cannot enforce anything there. Even if you force all servers catering to US citizen must be in the US, how do you even enforce that the data is not going to the CCP machinery? When there is a system (CCP) that the government feels is a threat, how do you convince them that the proper controls are in place? That is not a winning battle. It will just be an exercise in covering over the topic.
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#50Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
China would not comply with the regulations. They would claim to and continuously violate them.
And then those Chinese companies would just be banned. See Hawaui/ZTE/etc