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PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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PeerTube is basically developed by a single guy and has solved the infrastructure problem that many organizations have when wanting to host videos. Any organization can now host VoDs and live events on their own server(s) without being bled to death by the hosting provider since the badwidth will be shared among the concurrent viewers. This is such an underappreciated piece of technology that I hope many intitutions…

Yup, it's that amazing.

That's why I think said institutions should donate to the project ;)

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.

The goal of Peertube and Framasoft, the org behind it, is not product and market building. Product and Market building is exactly what led us to the default video repository being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart, arbitrary censoring based on american feelings for the entire planet, arbitrary demonetizing videos/channels but still getting the revenue stream, mining every bit of data fro…

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

> Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. The main problem aren't privileged actors like ISPs (although shit like asymmetric DSL or CGNAT definitely prevents people from self-hosting)... it is abuse and the complete unwillingness of almost everybody from private actors over govern…

You're right that there are a lot of bad actors out there, but in my experience they are pretty easy to deal with if you set things up right. The biggest annoyance for me self-hosting has been ISP refusing to give static IP and decent upstream bandwidth.

I've hosted my own website and email server for decades. It does take a little work to keep up with things like DMARC, reverse DNS etc, but if you get a good score on https://internet.nl/test-mail/ and don't spam anybody, self-hosted email works fine. FYI you are misusing "greylist."

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal of Peertube and Framasoft, the org behind it, is not product and market building. Product and Market building is exactly what led us to the default video repository being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart, arbitrary censoring based on american feelings for the entire planet, arbitrary demonetizing videos/channels but still getting the revenue stream, mining every bit of data fro…

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an update announcement on the company's blog. It's not the project's landing page.

Neither the homepage of the company, the linked page to get the update, nor the top level https://joinpeertube.org/ contain any video.

I thought the front page's "platforms" and "videos" section were very good. Got me quickly to the search box and I was watching vids about volcanoes in no time.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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post #22

This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

Hosting large files from your house is a good way to have a saturated upstream all the time. P2P protocols like gnutella and later bittorrent are a way to distribute files without putting all the load on one host. Not to mention all the liability for pirated content.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal of Peertube and Framasoft, the org behind it, is not product and market building. Product and Market building is exactly what led us to the default video repository being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart, arbitrary censoring based on american feelings for the entire planet, arbitrary demonetizing videos/channels but still getting the revenue stream, mining every bit of data fro…

You're proving the point. You see no difference in presenting a product well and "selling junk". The Peertube website's job is to tempt people to try it out. Getting people to use Peertube is the only way Peertube can change anything about the situation where the default video repository is being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart. That requires what iandanforth refers to as "product and…

You're right, and Framasoft (the French non-profit behind the project) knows it. If you can help, or know people who can, I think they'd be glad to hear from you!

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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post #34

Has anyone here experimented with IPFS to create a mirrored video archive for things like their YouTube channels? I don't hear much about IPFS these days.

I have - I've used IPFS to archive the channel of a creator I like (in true data-hoarding fashion).

It is neither convenient nor especially easy. It's mostly managed by a home-grown bash script that uses yt-dlp to archive videos, organized by playlist, and then update a IPNS key.

I plan on writing up a blog post about it at some point, if there's interest. I mentioned the project to the particular creator's fan discord (the creator doesn't participate with the community at all themselves) and there was a surprising amount of backlash from the community leaders. Most of the concerns revolved around the notion that I was somehow stealing ad revenue from the creator (despite my explanations that IPFS is not at all a convenient platform for video consumption). I might take the IPFS node off of the public network to circumvent this worry, and only peer with other parties interested in archival of that specific channel.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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post #46
post #22

This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

Hosting large files from your house is a good way to have a saturated upstream all the time. P2P protocols like gnutella and later bittorrent are a way to distribute files without putting all the load on one host. Not to mention all the liability for pirated content.

Only because the ISP's made it that way. Having 1Gbps down and 10Mbps up. You are forced into consumerism of bandwidth instead of a peer. ISP's don't want competition so you'll never be a peer.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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PeerTube is basically developed by a single guy and has solved the infrastructure problem that many organizations have when wanting to host videos. Any organization can now host VoDs and live events on their own server(s) without being bled to death by the hosting provider since the badwidth will be shared among the concurrent viewers. This is such an underappreciated piece of technology that I hope many intitutions…

Is it possible to embed PeerTube videos within your own custom frontend or are you forced to use theres? As in, could someone create a clone of the New York Times for example and within each article have a video embedded (from PeerTube tech)?

I've wanted to create a combat themed video site for years, since most sites get censored, and PeerTube always seemed like a perfect solution.

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