... for absolutely no reason because twitterers won't go there
There aren't two tribes here, some people use both and lots are switching right now.
Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
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Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is quite a stretch. Bitchute is video hosting, so it's not a Twitter competitor. And you're ignoring that it's well known as a host for hate speech. [1][2] [1] https://www.adl.org/blog/bitchute-a-hotbed-of-hate [2] https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2021/02/24/the...
And the internet isn't print journalism, yet it struck a near-fatal blow to newspaper budgets. That's the economic side of it. The other side is, as you say, established media discreetly [1] censoring alternatives that don't toe the line. But I don't care to have my web browsing be censored by the ADL, no matter how they justify it. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/comments/ktwypc/warning_re...
All this Reddit/Bitchute/newspaper stuff is a non sequitur — we're talking about Twitter and Mastodon, not any of those other things. Censoring Mastodon is a new policy under Elon.
The point of the "hate speech" comment is that there's a plausible reason to suppress Bitchute that doesn't involve stifling competition (especially because, as GP mentioned, Bitchute isn't actually a competitor to Twitter). So it's not even analogous to what's happening here.
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if this specific case existed pre-Musk, it's been clear through his actions that free speech was just a ruse to distract from his censoring of critical opinions of himself.
In my experience this seems to be the case for practically everyone who crows about free speech on the internet. It's kinda fucked up how the right has managed to "boy who cried wolf" discussion of personal freedom and free speech from important parts of modern democracy into massive red flags in conversation with others.
It is also fucked up how the left manages to convert all conversation about its censorship into whataboutism about the terrible things that the right has said.
All I want is a discussion platform without left-wing censorship, but with fact checks on right-wing conspiracy theories. Where controversial things can be discussed. Like how stupid it is that California policies in favor of racial equity helped keep 3/4 of COVID vaccines received in January of 2021 from going in ANYONE's arm. See https://www.worksinprogress.co/issue/the-story-of-vaccinatec... if that tidbit surprises you.
Is that too much to ask for? Apparently so...
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#44Elon is even going after Wikipedia now for revealing his dark secrets.
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#45This has been standard operating procedure at Twitter long before Musk: https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-censors-all-links-to-bitch... And at Google as well: https://reclaimthenet.org/google-play-bans-bitchute-app/ Edit: And at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/comments/ktwypc/warning_re...
Seems like censoring a website known for hosting hate speech is a bit different to censoring mastodon
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just recently an account that tweeted a video of elon musk being booed was suspended.
Yes, it was a DMCA takedown, for showing a copyrighted Dave Chappelle clip from his unreleased new special. Context is good. You can't just walk into a paid performance show, record it with your cellphone and release it willy nilly.
Did they upload the performance or just the Elon musk portion?
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience this seems to be the case for practically everyone who crows about free speech on the internet. It's kinda fucked up how the right has managed to "boy who cried wolf" discussion of personal freedom and free speech from important parts of modern democracy into massive red flags in conversation with others.
It is also fucked up how the left manages to convert all conversation about its censorship into whataboutism about the terrible things that the right has said. All I want is a discussion platform without left-wing censorship, but with fact checks on right-wing conspiracy theories. Where controversial things can be discussed. Like how stupid it is that California policies in favor of racial equity helped keep 3/4 of C…
Your first sentence is a whataboutism, that ends in criticizing the left about whataboutism.
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but the commenter said that this has been operating procedure for Twitter. But that does not seem to be true -- mastodon links have not been (soft) censored up until this point.
I was responding to the question about what link OP was trying to draw between BitChute and Mastodon, no idea at all about the second question re censoring Mastodon links on Twitter. But again, responding to your parallel comment, OP is not saying that BitChute is a competitor to Twitter. It's that entrenched player is (soft) censoring new competitor where , are filled in with (Google/YT, BitChute) and (Twitter, Mast…
That's the most charitable read I could come up with, too. It's such a tenuous connection, though, that one wonders why it's even worth mentioning in this context.
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder how many instances Twitter will be (soft) censoring? New instances can pop up at any moment, does Twitter plan to deplatform all of them, just ones that host objectionable content, or just those that are big enough to notice? This is a game of whack a mole. Good luck swinging that heavy ban hammer, Elon.
It should be relatively easy to detect — Twitter can simply check whether a domain implements ActivityPub when a user tries to submit a link.
Wow that would be a scorched earth policy, would it not? You would then be deplatforming video and image hosting sites, discussion forums, and blogs. Including people.kernel.org, the Linux kernel developer blogging platform.
Re: Links mentioning Mastodon flagged as sensitive on Twitter?
#50Just so you guys know - censorship and bans on Twitter are not at all a thing of the past in the Elon Musk era. There is, of course: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange which is still "Account suspended" but also new suspensions/bans, e.g. left-wing commentator Garland Nixon: https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/z2depd/garlan... and additional examples.
@ElonJet was also limited: https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney/status/1601793874594496512
For those who don't know what @ElonJet is: It is not a human's account, it is an account where a bot posts locations in the world of Elon Musk's jet (which it gets using publicly-accessible data).
TBH, I believe that bot activity regulation and censorship of people are two distinct issues. Still, the search-shadowbanning of @ElonJet is quite inappropriate.