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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#41

Post by snotrockets »

nigamanth wrote: post #14
VonGuard wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guy gets a "job" as a software engineer with a WHOLE lot of work, onboarding, paperwork, etc. Then the first thing they ask him to do is deposit a check into his account and send them the Cash immediately, before the check clears. They had the check UPS'd to his house, too.

Yep, he gets the job and then they suddenly run into a lot of errors and whatnot and he has to pay their check. When he tells them its a scam, they start questioning him lmao. Look at their bad grammar in the full conversation though, this was the last dead giveaway.

It's not bad grammar. It's just not American English.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by [deleted] »

into_infinity wrote: post #30
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

Sure. Buying and selling stuff that's "deplatformed" by Paypal / Zelle / Venmo (nothing illegal, their lists of prohibited items are as long as they are silly). Paying roofers and other local contractors who often aren't set up to take credit cards, especially if you venture outside a major metro area. Paying for a car without financing. Refunds from my own bank.

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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by [deleted] »

andsoitis wrote: post #25
jestarray wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was not in the right state of mind, my brain weirdly skimmed and auto-corrected grammar mistakes. I thought it was weird but I was just happy and yet busy to think about it further.

Is English your first language? I ask because in your first point you write: > Not too well antiquated with the job hiring process “Antiquated” means archaic or old-fashioned. There may be other errors in your article; I didn’t read the rest.

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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#44

Post by shmde »

Do you trust any work related email sent to you using a gmail account? Cause I absolutely don't. I work in a very very tiny startup and even this guy sent me the acceptance mail through his company site.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#45

Post by geocrasher »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

I write a check to my landlady every month and deposit it in her account. It's the most straightforward way to pay rent in this particular case.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#46

Post by Nursie »

tbrownaw wrote: post #22
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

Once a month for the water bill, because the city charges extra to pay online with a card. I think there are rules that say they have to? A year or two ago when we had a tree service come out to trim some things. Before that, when we had a fence redone. Both of those were smaller local companies.

Here's a question, where you are, does "Direct Debit" exist?

In the UK and here in Australia, when I set up a utility account I get a message saying "why not set up a direct debit?", which means that a transfer goes straight from my account to theirs at the alotted time each month, for the amount of the bill.

You get your usual bill usually a week or two before the debit goes out so you can make sure it's OK well before the transfer, and the debit process is guaranteed to return the money to you in case of a dispute. You can go into your online banking app and cancel any/all direct debit authorisations whenever you like.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#47

Post by titanomachy »

snotrockets wrote: post #41
nigamanth wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, he gets the job and then they suddenly run into a lot of errors and whatnot and he has to pay their check. When he tells them its a scam, they start questioning him lmao. Look at their bad grammar in the full conversation though, this was the last dead giveaway.

It's not bad grammar. It's just not American English.

Every other line of the IM transcript would be grammatically incorrect in any English-speaking country I’m aware of.

“All hotel and booking has been made and trips has been plnanned”

“Is this how you want to be difficult”

“I will send you later”

Where is any of that considered correct English? If my manager sent any of those message I’d be worried about a stroke.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#48

Post by ryandrake »

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or something, where you just get taught this and that’s the end of this scam. Insane that people still fall for this!

Same for the gift card scams. No legit business or government on earth in any industry asks for gift cards as payment! This is like an absolute ironclad fact of the universe. But so many people still fall for it!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#49

Post by tempestn »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

We pay for stuff by check all the time; as a Canadian business with vendors in the US, it tends to be the most convenient and inexpensive way to make payments of significant size. Our bank in the US has a feature where it will mail a check to anyone in the US from your account, free of charge (aside from the funds being sent, obviously). Certainly seems bizarre that sending a physical piece of paper through the mail is free whereas moving some bits around is expensive, but that's how it is!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#50

Post by cookie_monsta »

nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

I don't know, I've had a couple of bosses who were native English speakers and they would dash off emails so fast obviously without reading them that it took me multiple reads to parse what they might be trying to say. If it were just punctuation or spelling errors I would have been happy.

I suspect they wrote to their bosses much more carefully.

But something as sketchy as this setup would have my antenna twitching anyway, so these kinds of mistakes would probably be red flags given that context, otherwise maybe not

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