This seems to stress a lot of people out. But doesn't stress me out at all. After a bit of thought, I think it's because I turn off notifications for all slack/email type stuff at work. Instead I just habitually check them. If someone really urgently needs me, I'm sure they'll call.
No Hello: A New Wave
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Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#42So this is a direct copy of https://www.nohello.com/ ?
https://github.com/sbmueller/nohello > This website was inspired by the original at nohello.com. Acknowledgements go to the original anonymous author. I felt an urge to modernize this gem with a more suitable layout, https connection and open-sourced code.
But that's what https://nohello.net already is
Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#43Imagine being this triggered because somebody opened their conversation with “Hello”. In my experience not many people will simply leave it at “Hello” for more than a few minutes. At which point you can respond to their question. And if they never provide more details then the problem solved itself.
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#44My coworkers have it down to a tee (the wrong way that is): Co-worker: hello Me: Hi, what's up? Co-worker: got 5 mins? Me: Sure Co-worker: rings me to ask a question that could have been a single chat message In isolation, this would be fine but this can happen multiple times a day.
I used to be infuriated with colleagues who felt the need to preface questions with “Question…” and then ask the question. Just ask the damned question. I should be able to figure out that it’s a question.
Now I am more patient.
Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#45people who are obsessed with this subject usually have poor communication skills.
Usually the biggest office asshole and last person you want to talk to for anything. The living embodiment of Nick Burns.
Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#46I follow a simple rule. If I'm looking for a written conversation, I say hello followed by whatever I want to say next in the same message. If I want to call someone, I say hello and ask them if they are available in the same message. I avoid situations in between because they are usually highly entropic and confusing. And sending a single message works, so there's no need to fix it.
I do start with a Hello, followed by whatever I have to say in the same message. In addition I also annotate with an ``/`` at the end as appropriate.
It has seemed to work for me.
Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#47My coworkers have it down to a tee (the wrong way that is): Co-worker: hello Me: Hi, what's up? Co-worker: got 5 mins? Me: Sure Co-worker: rings me to ask a question that could have been a single chat message In isolation, this would be fine but this can happen multiple times a day.
I had a similar experience with one coworker that almost drove me nuts
Co-worker: Hello
Me: Hey, what's up?
Co-worker: Do you have a minute?
Me: Sure
Co-worker: Can I ask you a question?
Me: Yeah, what is it?
Co-worker: Actually, it's a bit hard to explain, can we can on a call?
Me: (screaming internally)
Re: No Hello: A New Wave
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there is an emotional cost in receiving a work-related message that only says "hello". My data point: it enrages everyone I know. And they lose respect for the person who said "hello" and wasted their time.
I can’t conceive of working in an environment where coworkers are enraged by minor communication differences. Like wow you just work with a bunch of assholes. Probably that’s the thing to solve for, not “hello”, “query” vs “hello, query”.
No. It completely disrespects the recipients work and time by demanding a meeting with no agenda.
Everyone I work with feels the same. The “hello” people are the outliers and the rest of the office knows it.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can’t conceive of working in an environment where coworkers are enraged by minor communication differences. Like wow you just work with a bunch of assholes. Probably that’s the thing to solve for, not “hello”, “query” vs “hello, query”.
No. It completely disrespects the recipients work and time by demanding a meeting with no agenda. Everyone I work with feels the same. The “hello” people are the outliers and the rest of the office knows it.
The hello people? rofl
...there must be some psychology student out there to whom this thread is an absolute gold mine for their Ph.D. thesis. ...or maybe a standup comedian.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. It completely disrespects the recipients work and time by demanding a meeting with no agenda. Everyone I work with feels the same. The “hello” people are the outliers and the rest of the office knows it.
The hello people? rofl ...there must be some psychology student out there to whom this thread is an absolute gold mine for their Ph.D. thesis. ...or maybe a standup comedian.
People are telling you that they find your behavior disruptive and rude, yet you continue to discredit their feelings.
You cannot control how a recipient receives your message.