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Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by dorkitude » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:07 AM UTC

badkangaroo wrote: post #12

dorkitude wrote: post #2

(copied from my response at http://dorkitude.com/post/14691558851/the-godaddy-victory-is... ) The GoDaddy victory is a red herring. That GoDaddy reversed its SOPA stance (or at least its PR stance) about SOPA in the wake of our boycott is good news, but it's also distracting news. While it does demonstrate that we, the citizens of the righteous internet, can have P&L impact as consumers in the B2B world, the real and…

I've moved from att to sprint, not really that much of a change, but it's not att. I've moved from godaddy to networksolutions, and I'm on sonic.net for my home dsl, and I've not had regular cable service since 2002. I'm also working at a fringe game company and I dont use photoshop or any other adobe anythings and I try to use Modo or blender for 3d whenever possible. Maya and max are hard to get away from... I wish…

It's a valiant effort, but my point was that end-user boycotts aren't a sound way to affect those companies (unless, perhaps, those end users started boycotting employers that support these companies -- more and more of a possibility, as power shifts into the hands of hackers)

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by gojomo » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:13 AM UTC

phil wrote: post #22

sage_joch wrote: post #14

I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but I had to actually look up the name of SOPA's founder (Lamar Smith). He should be facing heavy criticism right now, at least to the extent that SOPA-supporting companies are. It's as if his career isn't in any jeopardy at all over this.

This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_S._Smith Lamar Smith is a Texas Republican in a district that is 2/3 R -- any effort to unseat him would have to involve a primary challenge and thus speak to Republican primary voters.

FWIW, Smith's district is very similar to, and adjacent to, Ron Paul's district. So it's thinkable that the seat could be held by a better Republican… although the advantages of incumbency are many and on most issues Smith is acceptable to his constituents.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by onedognight » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:22 AM UTC

elliottcarlson wrote: post #40

F_J_H wrote: post #33

Thinking about moving my domains - any suggestions on the best alternative? Update: For what it's worth, here's a reddit link that lists a number of alternatives: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/no1ux/reddit_if_o...

I have been a big fan of Gandi.net for quite some time - they have an anti-SOPA [1] stand point for a while, their administrative tools are great and easy to use, and their support for the one time I required it was friendly and knowledgeable and last but not least offer a free SSL certificate with each domain. http://www.gandibar.net/post/2011/12/23/Gandi-s-Opposition-t...

> Gandi.net [...] offer a free SSL certificate with each domain.

For one year. http://startssl.com/ offer them for free to anyone.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by sc00ter » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:31 AM UTC

dorkitude wrote: post #2

(copied from my response at http://dorkitude.com/post/14691558851/the-godaddy-victory-is... ) The GoDaddy victory is a red herring. That GoDaddy reversed its SOPA stance (or at least its PR stance) about SOPA in the wake of our boycott is good news, but it's also distracting news. While it does demonstrate that we, the citizens of the righteous internet, can have P&L impact as consumers in the B2B world, the real and…

I'm not sure on what basis you picked the comanies named on your list, but at least three of the four software companies you mentioned are incorrect, and two of those were never in support of SOPA other than by association with the BSA.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/246461/the_case_for_sopa_legi...

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by quacker » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:43 AM UTC

timr wrote: post #36

Urgh. I can't be the only person who is getting exceptionally tired of seeing self-congratulatory blog posts about GoDaddy rise to the top of HN. Dear interwebnerds: the point has been made. Stop obsessing. Every time you get your knickers in a knot and write a crowing blog post about how you just put it to The Domain Provider Who Shall Not Be Named, you give them more name recognition, free press and SEO. So stop it…

It's only been a day or two. GoDaddy is getting free press but bad press. It's getting name recognition but not the kind it wants. This will have a dramatic effect on the image of the company, and personally I want to see how GoDaddy handles this and what effect it has on the company and its competitors, if any, as well as the effect on the bill's passage, if any. I'll agree that some of the revelry may be unwarranted, but this submission is still entirely relevant.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by wx77 » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 2:55 AM UTC

gry wrote: post #34

acabal wrote: post #19

Too little, too late. I'm still moving my ~20 domains away. Their initial stance, plus their ridiculous initial response ("We heard some people were mad, but we're not changing our tune until we start losing money") indicates that they don't actually care about dropping SOPA support. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if behind this "we're so sorry" facade, Bob Parsons and Lamar Smith are having dinner and a laugh.

Same here. I've moved most of mine to gandi.net. They are foreign sites now.

Aren't they still applicable to SOPA if they are .com .net .org .us domains such as homeland security taking down domains previous example shows.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by opreal » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 3:10 AM UTC

MrJagil wrote: post #8

I was thinking, we can safely assume theres a lot of start-up CEOs/founders/whatevers around here. What if all of these companies prominently displayed dissatisfaction with SOPA. Wouldn't this be an immediate, effective way to reach the uninformed masses? If PG can involve politics in his company, why can't you?

What are you suggesting? I'm pretty sure we've all been voicing our opinions or at least acting as conduits to expression against such endeavors.

Do the politicians take notice though? Sounds like we may all need to step it up a notch? Apparently power in numbers in is the only thing that counts to law makers and their lobbyists.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by CWuestefeld » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 3:15 AM UTC

phil wrote: post #22

sage_joch wrote: post #14

I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but I had to actually look up the name of SOPA's founder (Lamar Smith). He should be facing heavy criticism right now, at least to the extent that SOPA-supporting companies are. It's as if his career isn't in any jeopardy at all over this.

This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_S._Smith Lamar Smith is a Texas Republican in a district that is 2/3 R -- any effort to unseat him would have to involve a primary challenge and thus speak to Republican primary voters.

I believe that so much of what's wrong in American politics, from the inability to throw out incumbents, to the polarization seen in primaries, can be attributed to gerrymandering.

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by cma » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 3:43 AM UTC

sc00ter wrote: post #44

dorkitude wrote: post #2

(copied from my response at http://dorkitude.com/post/14691558851/the-godaddy-victory-is... ) The GoDaddy victory is a red herring. That GoDaddy reversed its SOPA stance (or at least its PR stance) about SOPA in the wake of our boycott is good news, but it's also distracting news. While it does demonstrate that we, the citizens of the righteous internet, can have P&L impact as consumers in the B2B world, the real and…

I'm not sure on what basis you picked the comanies named on your list, but at least three of the four software companies you mentioned are incorrect, and two of those were never in support of SOPA other than by association with the BSA. http://www.pcworld.com/article/246461/the_case_for_sopa_legi...

Isn't association with BSA, being that they are a copyright-enforcement arm, extremely relevant?

Re: GoDaddy is scrambling to do damage control

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Post by kls » Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 3:49 AM UTC

acabal wrote: post #19

Too little, too late. I'm still moving my ~20 domains away. Their initial stance, plus their ridiculous initial response ("We heard some people were mad, but we're not changing our tune until we start losing money") indicates that they don't actually care about dropping SOPA support. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if behind this "we're so sorry" facade, Bob Parsons and Lamar Smith are having dinner and a laugh.

Right it is still important for the historical context. When people reflect on the GoDaddy incident, they will either say GoDaddy supported bad legislation and was brutally punished for it and the lesson will be learned by future companies or they will reflect on it and say GoDaddy took a gamble and bet on bad legislation, they apologized and where able to avoid accountability. By your continuing to remove your domains, you have helped that future lesson be the first narrative. It's no longer about GoDaddy and now about, what do we want the narrative to say.