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Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#42

Hard to take this seriously when the CEO keeps peddling right-wing conspiracy theories and calling out advertisers who have reduced their spend due to concerns about the platform.

Out of curiosity, what conspiracies is he peddling?

Off the top of my head: He was peddling the conspiracy that Paul Pelosi was attacked by a spurned lover.

He had to quickly walk that one back by deleting the reply and pretending it never happened.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#43

First Twitter was going to crash in a week, then it was everyone would flee to Mastodon, now it’s that all the advertisers would leave. Maybe Twitter really didn’t need 7500 people, and maybe having more voices speak is a good thing (there is always block button), and maybe advertisers won’t flee forever. That seems more likely to me than Twitter imploding.

The ideologically driven hyperventilating over Twitter is so ridiculous.

Pre-2015 Twitter wasn't the apocalypse before all the content moderation policies were rushed in as a response to widespread narrative that a bunch of people in swing states changed their votes because of Russian accounts.

It's not the apocalypse now. You can block hateful trolls anytime you want.

At the end of the day, there's a chunk of the US population who believes that they are much, much smarter than most of their countrymen, and that their unique ability to identify misinformation isn't shared by these buffoons in swing states who don't vote the way they want them to. There's a huge swathe of people like that in the software industry.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#44

Hard to take this seriously when the CEO keeps peddling right-wing conspiracy theories and calling out advertisers who have reduced their spend due to concerns about the platform.

Out of curiosity, what conspiracies is he peddling?

that paul pelosi is a gay man who got beat up by a prostitute he picked up while drinking.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/business/musk-tweet-pelosi-co...

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter was previously doing A/B tests. Spaces, communities, downvotes, circles, and even moderation were applied only to a subset of accounts while they actively experimented. The new policy is an objectively less scientific approach to testing functionality than what was occurring before.

It's not like A/B tests approach anything like the rigor that we expect from actual science, though.

It's about marketing, the A/B testing they do, not science.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#47
post #12

TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, it can be boiled down to "don't worry, we still prioritize brand safety like before". It does have this gem in it: "What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation. As you’ve seen over the past several weeks, Twitter is embracing public testing. We believe that this open and transparent approach to innovation is healthy, as it enables us to move faster an…

> What a weird thing to say...

They need to explain musks antics somehow. More polite wording than idve used.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#48
post #12

TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, it can be boiled down to "don't worry, we still prioritize brand safety like before". It does have this gem in it: "What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation. As you’ve seen over the past several weeks, Twitter is embracing public testing. We believe that this open and transparent approach to innovation is healthy, as it enables us to move faster an…

Hey remember all those terrible things we banned? Lets experiment by letting them free again! Weeeeeeeeeeee.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter was previously doing A/B tests. Spaces, communities, downvotes, circles, and even moderation were applied only to a subset of accounts while they actively experimented. The new policy is an objectively less scientific approach to testing functionality than what was occurring before.

It's not like A/B tests approach anything like the rigor that we expect from actual science, though.

It wasn't "scientific" to begin with but what's happening right now is pretty clearly panicked throwing stuff at the wall based on Elon's intuition and day to day demands... while that may have worked for him in the past, I don't think it's going to work as well in this domain where you're working with a complex system dependent on millions of people's behaviors and incentives.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#50
post #8

> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. "Nothing has changed, except..." > Our Trust & Safety team continues its diligent work to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct, abusive behavior, and any violation of Twitter's rules. The team remains strong and well-resourc…

Yeah... Also, the unbanning of users previously considered hateful also directly conflicts with "to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct"
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