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Vint Cerf was right. The internet is dead. What we have now is the splinternet, where a lot of countries have giant Galapagos intranets. We can all thank China and Cisco with the innovation of The Great Firewall for this
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Please stop pretending that Twitter or Facebook censoring people is the same thing as China. Tech companies are not running concentration camps and don’t have nuclear weapons. They want to sell ads, not dominate the world.
> Please stop pretending that Twitter or Facebook censoring people is the same thing as China If ~2-3 corporations control the speech, and they censor it according to their arbitrary whim and what the US government dictates as 'fake news' as the government wields the hammer of 'inquiries' that could lead to potential gigantic fines, even breakup over their heads, its the exact same thing with China's censorship. The…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-...
> its the exact same thing with China's censorship.
No, it's not. In a location with adequate free speech protections, posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse, even if it is a sensitive topic.
Both of the above links (and all of HN) are inaccessible in China without a VPN, and the Great Firewall makes most VPNs and anti-censorship services extremely unreliable in China through heavy throttling and connection resetting.
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> Please stop pretending that Twitter or Facebook censoring people is the same thing as China If ~2-3 corporations control the speech, and they censor it according to their arbitrary whim and what the US government dictates as 'fake news' as the government wields the hammer of 'inquiries' that could lead to potential gigantic fines, even breakup over their heads, its the exact same thing with China's censorship. The…
So is your office right in Beijing or somewhere else? > Its not even 20 years after the tale of nonexistent Iraqi WMDS. You people still buy what is sold to you unquestioningly and ironically assert that you have 'free speech'. Look at this. Here you are on a US website, free to post critical things about the US government with no fear of being put in jail or re-educated. Why don’t you go to China and post on Weibo a…
Is your office in US State Dept. building?
> Here you are on a US website, free to post critical things about the US government with no fear of being put in jail or re-educated.
A lot of Americans who have been kidnapped via 'rendition flights' and tortured for decades would disagree.
> Why don’t you go to China and post on Weibo about Tiennamen Square
Chinese people do that. Nothing happens unless they are backed by NED or they lie.
In contrast, why dont you start posting about the latest US foreign policy initiative and try finding out how much it will affect your life?
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> Please stop pretending that Twitter or Facebook censoring people is the same thing as China If ~2-3 corporations control the speech, and they censor it according to their arbitrary whim and what the US government dictates as 'fake news' as the government wields the hammer of 'inquiries' that could lead to potential gigantic fines, even breakup over their heads, its the exact same thing with China's censorship. The…
> China does not have concentration camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-... > its the exact same thing with China's censorship. No, it's not. In a location with adequate free speech protections, posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse, even if it is…
> posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse
Neither in China nor anywhere else posting anything against the government's 'agenda' does anything unless one is backed by NED. At most you get your post deleted.
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So is your office right in Beijing or somewhere else? > Its not even 20 years after the tale of nonexistent Iraqi WMDS. You people still buy what is sold to you unquestioningly and ironically assert that you have 'free speech'. Look at this. Here you are on a US website, free to post critical things about the US government with no fear of being put in jail or re-educated. Why don’t you go to China and post on Weibo a…
> So is your office right in Beijing or somewhere else? Is your office in US State Dept. building? > Here you are on a US website, free to post critical things about the US government with no fear of being put in jail or re-educated. A lot of Americans who have been kidnapped via 'rendition flights' and tortured for decades would disagree. > Why don’t you go to China and post on Weibo about Tiennamen Square Chinese p…
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> So is your office right in Beijing or somewhere else? Is your office in US State Dept. building? > Here you are on a US website, free to post critical things about the US government with no fear of being put in jail or re-educated. A lot of Americans who have been kidnapped via 'rendition flights' and tortured for decades would disagree. > Why don’t you go to China and post on Weibo about Tiennamen Square Chinese p…
Yep, about 9am in China, isn’t it? Your shift just started.
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> China does not have concentration camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-... > its the exact same thing with China's censorship. No, it's not. In a location with adequate free speech protections, posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse, even if it is…
In between a wiki article sourced from Anglosaxon and Anglosaxon funded sources and the parliamentarians and ministers of EVERY single muslim majority country who went to Xinjiang and concluded that there were no concentration camps there, I will go with the latter. > posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse Neither in China nor anywher…
I'm going to trust Anar Sabit's first-hand experiences in the Xinjiang concentration camps over the claims of an HN user who has an issue with "Anglosaxons". Xinjiang itself is a location where citizens are incarcerated en masse for speaking against the ruling government's agenda, and also for much less than that. You have no evidence that the people trapped in these concentation camps are "backed by NED".
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Yep. Youre not a 'paid propagandist'. Everyone else is. Now that will make the inconvenient truth go away. Well done. Nobody ever thought of saying that before.
Nothing you’ve said is true.
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Nothing you’ve said is true.
Yeah. In contrast, all the stuff you said - which you have copied word for word from the US State Dept. and US media - are totally true. Just like back in 2003...