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DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

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Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

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post #5

Can someone find a link to the source code (it is licensed under the GPLv2)? I tried to open the xpi in a text editor, but no dice. I don't have much experience with FF addons, but I'd like to see exactly what's happening here.

You can rename the extension to .zip and extract. If you have any problems, let me know via a comment or post a contact method and Ill send you the source. Its pretty simple. When on, it intercepts URLs, sends the base URL to three offshore DNS services via HTTP, makes a best effort to check that two of them are equivalent, caches the IP for the browser session, redirects to the equivalent URL using the IP, and subst…

Thanks for your work!

The explanation on how the extension works was enlightening. Perhaps I missed it, but would you mind including the explanation on the download page?

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#42
post #34

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The worst part of SOPA, in my opinion, is the ability for a rightsholder to ask any ad network or payment provider to stop doing business with any website merely by claiming the site's primary function is infringement... and the liability incentives the bill creates for doing so without a trial. We can route around DNS blocks to get to the sites, but what does that matter if the sites close themselves because their f…

Microtransactions in Bitcoin (or heck ads paid with bitcoin). You can't cut of bitcoin transactions because there is by its very definition no place to cut them of. If this is the case, we are only going to get that much closer to the end game.

That might be a solution 5, 10 years down the line.

What's the solution today?

If you cut any site off from Google/DoubleClick, you've effectively prevented them from monetizing through advertising enough to reach top 100.

That's not every site's business model, but there's certainly a class of sites we'd like to exist (of which YouTube is a prime example) that would not be able to exist without access to the US advertising networks.

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#43

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I have to say, as much as bitcoin is in a downfall, this actually makes a ton of sense. That was the initial goal of bitcoin, to create a de-centralized currency. As long as the BTC is a STABLE currency this works out well. Or short-term stable. It can become a medium of financial transfer: I buy 10 BTC, donate it, they claim 10 BTC, convert to cash. Done. It would be great if there was a tool to literally facilitate…

> HOWEVER THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE INTERNET IS AGAINST. This will prevent all sort of anti-fraud that is going on now. You will wind up bypassing years of innovation to create a black market. It will be detremental. Right now, in meatspace, I have both options: I can pay with cash and have little to no recourse or record, or I can pay with check or credit card and have a record and various fraud protection measures.…

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Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#44
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can rename the extension to .zip and extract. If you have any problems, let me know via a comment or post a contact method and Ill send you the source. Its pretty simple. When on, it intercepts URLs, sends the base URL to three offshore DNS services via HTTP, makes a best effort to check that two of them are equivalent, caches the IP for the browser session, redirects to the equivalent URL using the IP, and subst…

Thanks for your work! The explanation on how the extension works was enlightening. Perhaps I missed it, but would you mind including the explanation on the download page?

Sure! updated: http://bit.ly/rvG87g

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#45
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microtransactions in Bitcoin (or heck ads paid with bitcoin). You can't cut of bitcoin transactions because there is by its very definition no place to cut them of. If this is the case, we are only going to get that much closer to the end game.

I have to say, as much as bitcoin is in a downfall, this actually makes a ton of sense. That was the initial goal of bitcoin, to create a de-centralized currency. As long as the BTC is a STABLE currency this works out well. Or short-term stable. It can become a medium of financial transfer: I buy 10 BTC, donate it, they claim 10 BTC, convert to cash. Done. It would be great if there was a tool to literally facilitate…

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Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to say, as much as bitcoin is in a downfall, this actually makes a ton of sense. That was the initial goal of bitcoin, to create a de-centralized currency. As long as the BTC is a STABLE currency this works out well. Or short-term stable. It can become a medium of financial transfer: I buy 10 BTC, donate it, they claim 10 BTC, convert to cash. Done. It would be great if there was a tool to literally facilitate…

> HOWEVER THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE INTERNET IS AGAINST. This will prevent all sort of anti-fraud that is going on now. You will wind up bypassing years of innovation to create a black market. It will be detremental. Right now, in meatspace, I have both options: I can pay with cash and have little to no recourse or record, or I can pay with check or credit card and have a record and various fraud protection measures.…

> various bitcoin escrow agencies have popped up

But bitcoin escrow agencies don't solve the SOPA problem -- once you have a small number of intermediaries paying these websites, they become the place where the law can apply its force. They will be ordered/coerced to stop funding ThePirateBay or whatever site the media industry targets, so these sites either can't have reliable BC payments or they are subject to being cut off by these laws without trial.

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#47
post #19

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So for "infringing" sites hosted in the US (or on .com, .net, .org) What can SOPA do?

I would like to know as well but I think they are relying on the existing DMCA, which I think have similar provisions: domain seizures but no server manipulation.

AIUI the DMCA does not provide for domain seizures. Those are done under a creative interpretation of the property seizure laws that were written to allow the government to confiscate property used in the commission of a crime, (e.g. seizing and auctioning off cars that were purchased with drug money).

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#48
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microtransactions in Bitcoin (or heck ads paid with bitcoin). You can't cut of bitcoin transactions because there is by its very definition no place to cut them of. If this is the case, we are only going to get that much closer to the end game.

That might be a solution 5, 10 years down the line. What's the solution today? If you cut any site off from Google/DoubleClick, you've effectively prevented them from monetizing through advertising enough to reach top 100. That's not every site's business model, but there's certainly a class of sites we'd like to exist (of which YouTube is a prime example) that would not be able to exist without access to the US adve…

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Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#49

SOPA specifically (without actually naming it) calls out addons.mozilla.org for the whole mafiaafire thing -- so under SOPA, this add-on wouldn't be allowed to stay up. "[T]his version targets software developers and distributors as well. It allows the Attorney General (doing Hollywood or trademark holders' bidding) to go after more or less anyone who provides or offers a product or service that could be used to get…

China blocks sites, everyone uses a VPS. If peoples favorite sites start going down, i'm pretty sure the majority of users will start working out how to get around the block, and those that don't probably weren't as frequent users anyway.

You have to remember, for a lot of people their online experience ends at facebook, youtube and hotmail. Sites like reddit, stack overflow, digg, all have audiences that generally don't use IE and will also be able to find a way around a SOPA block. Sure, these sites will lose a lot of traffic, but SOPA will FAR from kill them.

Re: DeSopa: a Firefox addon to easily bypass SOPA DNS blocking

#50
post #38

SOPA specifically (without actually naming it) calls out addons.mozilla.org for the whole mafiaafire thing -- so under SOPA, this add-on wouldn't be allowed to stay up. "[T]his version targets software developers and distributors as well. It allows the Attorney General (doing Hollywood or trademark holders' bidding) to go after more or less anyone who provides or offers a product or service that could be used to get…

Of course, with SOPA they won't just take the one addon down, but the entire domain.

In which case I'm sure "someone" will post it uuencoded to every forum operated by any subsidiary of companies supporting SOPA.

Or something to that effect.

They'll have fun moderating every scrap of user generated content they want to make use of or shut all their forums down, and still, circumvention tools will be everywhere.

If this passes, not only will they find people will create tons of tools to make circumvention easier than ever, but darknet efforts redoubled and work to make the net in general more censorship resistant explode; and people doing their worst to ensure it'll be harder than ever to stop piracy.

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