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Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

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Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

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The H-1B program is designed to suppress tech worker wages in the U.S. and create a more compliant workforce here. I'm not sure it is possible for a company to ethically use this program, and many outright use it for abuse https://www.epi.org/publication/new-evidence-widespread-wage...

It baffles my mind why anyone would immigrate here legally, considering how laughably easy it is to overstay (or cross one of our multi-thousand mile borders or coasts). I've interacted with DHS (the department under which immigration is housed) and they are nothing but authoritarian jack-boots who systematically destroy your civil rights, I can't imagine what it would be like to actually ask them "may I pretty pleas…

> It baffles my mind why anyone would immigrate here legally, considering how laughably easy it is to overstay (or cross one of our multi-thousand mile borders or coasts).

It’s not easy - and not an easy life compared to having a valid work visa

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

#42

The H-1B program is designed to suppress tech worker wages in the U.S. and create a more compliant workforce here. I'm not sure it is possible for a company to ethically use this program, and many outright use it for abuse https://www.epi.org/publication/new-evidence-widespread-wage...

Indeed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

Damn - I was H1B and even I’m appalled

But everything checks out to what I saw: throw every qualification or certification into the job ad, no one could seriously match it

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

#43

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It baffles my mind why anyone would immigrate here legally, considering how laughably easy it is to overstay (or cross one of our multi-thousand mile borders or coasts). I've interacted with DHS (the department under which immigration is housed) and they are nothing but authoritarian jack-boots who systematically destroy your civil rights, I can't imagine what it would be like to actually ask them "may I pretty pleas…

It may be easy to overstay, but it is not easy to retain a good middle class lifestyle long term. For example: 1. Mandatory I-9 verification means you will not be able to work at any large or non-shady company. No more highly paid tech jobs. 2. You can not re-enter and therefore you cannot leave, e.g. to see your parents in your home country, business trips or international vacations. 3. You cannot renew your drivers…

Isn't immigration nation the program where they showed something like 98% of those going through the legal immigration process to seek asylum being denied and sent back to get hunted down and killed by gangs waiting back home? When they could have came illegally and only had something like 5% chance a year of being caught and removed (and most likely, far less if they dont engage in non-immigration related crime)?

You know anybody in tech jobs working on contract? Did you know they don't verify I-9 for 1099 workers and B2B payments? Did you know about half of illegal immigrants have no high school diploma, yet they make roughly same as American non-high-school graduates?

AS you say California does issue driver license.

The fear of ICE for illegals who are off the record is swapped for other fears when you're legal and on the books. Like the fear I have of CBP (customs/border patrol), who actually served me a search warrant since I'm a citizen with a recorded address who goes through the legal port of entry. Last time I got tossed in a cell for 16 hours and was strip searched, put into medical debt, printed and booked, shackled and cuffed, made to perform bodily functions in front of CBP officers, taken around by prisoner transport van, even though I did nothing wrong -- all because I used the legal port of entry instead of sneaking through the desert. Citizens aren't immune to persecution by our immigration and border apparatus, and unlike illegal immigrant I don't have another nation to fall back on when my own countries immigration system turns tyrannical on citizens like me.

And it's a myth you can't be naturalized if here illegally. People get married and do it all the time.

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be easy to overstay, but it is not easy to retain a good middle class lifestyle long term. For example: 1. Mandatory I-9 verification means you will not be able to work at any large or non-shady company. No more highly paid tech jobs. 2. You can not re-enter and therefore you cannot leave, e.g. to see your parents in your home country, business trips or international vacations. 3. You cannot renew your drivers…

Isn't immigration nation the program where they showed something like 98% of those going through the legal immigration process to seek asylum being denied and sent back to get hunted down and killed by gangs waiting back home? When they could have came illegally and only had something like 5% chance a year of being caught and removed (and most likely, far less if they dont engage in non-immigration related crime)? Yo…

Thank you. While my overall opinion has not changed (legal immigration is preferable), I appreciate your factual corrections (e.g. no I-9 for 1099). And I am sorry you had that interaction with CBP. Then you can relate to the cruelty of that system better than me. I too have been treated arbitrarily and incorrectly, but it has only resulted in delays and paperwork. Nothing like that.

Immigration Nation was very hard for me to watch back then, in the context of the time at which it was released.

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

#45

The H-1B program is designed to suppress tech worker wages in the U.S. and create a more compliant workforce here. I'm not sure it is possible for a company to ethically use this program, and many outright use it for abuse https://www.epi.org/publication/new-evidence-widespread-wage...

Indeed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

That video isn't even about H1B. It's crazy how little techies know about the legal immigration system, the tech forums are always in mass confusion over it.

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

#46

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Isn't immigration nation the program where they showed something like 98% of those going through the legal immigration process to seek asylum being denied and sent back to get hunted down and killed by gangs waiting back home? When they could have came illegally and only had something like 5% chance a year of being caught and removed (and most likely, far less if they dont engage in non-immigration related crime)? Yo…

Thank you. While my overall opinion has not changed (legal immigration is preferable), I appreciate your factual corrections (e.g. no I-9 for 1099). And I am sorry you had that interaction with CBP. Then you can relate to the cruelty of that system better than me. I too have been treated arbitrarily and incorrectly, but it has only resulted in delays and paperwork. Nothing like that. Immigration Nation was very hard…

Sorry for the shit you experienced. I do welcome immigrants to our country. I just despise our immigration system and have become quite jaded from my observations.

I felt quite embarrassed when I watched that documentary; these agencies have never been great but they seem to have really went off the rails post 9/11.

Re: Free H-1B for laid off tech-workers

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Except this company is trying to make it easier to keep these people here to depress wages during a downturn.

I think it's really unethical to tell people they need to pack up their lives and move countries because of external factors that were not their fault.

People who came to the US knew that when they came. That is part of the conditions of coming to the country. If someone doesn't want to have to worry about that they can choose not to come in the first place. Other countries do that same thing.
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