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Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#41
This feels very adjacent to the Scunthorpe problem, except that the blocking is intentional here:

> The Scunthorpe problem is unintentional blocking [...] because [...] text contains a string (or substring) of letters that appear to have an [...] unacceptable meaning. Names, abbreviations, and technical terms are most often cited as being affected by the issue.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#42
post #32

You can’t create a Gmail account containing the words support, gmail, google, and several other variations

Huh, TIL. Is that documented anywhere? I confirmed that you're right by trying to create a new address, but I've never heard of this rule before.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#43
post #41

This feels very adjacent to the Scunthorpe problem, except that the blocking is intentional here: > The Scunthorpe problem is unintentional blocking [...] because [...] text contains a string (or substring) of letters that appear to have an [...] unacceptable meaning. Names, abbreviations, and technical terms are most often cited as being affected by the issue. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

Actually, in this case it's intentional that "Clyde" is blocked. That's the name of the "bot" that error messages on Discord use to make them friendlier.

It's obviously not a good solution, but it's not an example of the Scunthorpe problem.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#44
post #43
post #41

This feels very adjacent to the Scunthorpe problem, except that the blocking is intentional here: > The Scunthorpe problem is unintentional blocking [...] because [...] text contains a string (or substring) of letters that appear to have an [...] unacceptable meaning. Names, abbreviations, and technical terms are most often cited as being affected by the issue. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

Actually, in this case it's intentional that "Clyde" is blocked. That's the name of the "bot" that error messages on Discord use to make them friendlier. It's obviously not a good solution, but it's not an example of the Scunthorpe problem.

You're right. Updated.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#45
post #35

This is a good case for why system bots/messages/etc. shouldn't be given regular names (and perhaps distinguished through other means too); if the error was instead "Username cannot contain 'discord'", it'd be more obvious.

Amazon: Alexa Microsoft: Cortana Apple: Siri Discord: Clyde Google: Google Disclosure, I work at Google.

Man I wanted so badly for Cortana not to be a big pile of garbage.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#46
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. The reason for this is not technical (unless you think they literally filled their user database with every possible username permutation with the word 'clyde' in it). It's to make sure scammers can't use names with these words in it, because it might make more people consider those accounts legitimate.

Yeah, sure. The very first comment in the Reddit thread says "I use Clydē and it works," and the third one is "CIyde. Use capital i instead of L," so nice try, but no.

All usernames on Discord have a four-digit number after them called a discriminator, separated from the rest of the name by a # symbol. In the Reddit post in question, that number is #6381.

The problem isn't that the (fake) bot is in the same namespace as users; if there were any problem like that at all, it would be a shortage of discriminators.

However, that's not what this message is saying. It's saying that the name cannot contain "Clyde". In other words, you wouldn't be able to use any name that had the word "Clyde" in it, taken or not.

The fact that they haven't attempted to block usage of "CIyde" and similar does suggest they might not have thought it through, but it's verifiably not a namespace issue.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#47
post #38
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon: Alexa Microsoft: Cortana Apple: Siri Discord: Clyde Google: Google Disclosure, I work at Google.

Written like that Google suddenly looks like geniuses.

At least in the naming, sure. Everything else, not so much. I had to switch my whole house over to Echos because you can't change the wake word on Google Home. Every time I said, say, "Hey Google, turn the bedroom lamp off", the Home in the bedroom would say ok and turn the lamp off, both phones in the room would activate and complain that they didn't have a device named lamp listed, and every other Home in the house would start talking about how it couldn't hear me clearly. Then you yell "Hey Google, shut the fuck up!" and the blasted things start whining about how they "have feelings too" and I shouldn't be so rude. Few technological problems have made my fingers ache more for a sledgehammer.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#48
post #7

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I feel bad for all the Alexas and the few Siris out there that have had their names hijacked my a couple of the biggest companies on the planet.

Slightly different, but my friend's daughter Isis hasn't been too happy about what's happened since she was born.

Or the awesome band.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#49

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Slightly different, but my friend's daughter Isis hasn't been too happy about what's happened since she was born.

Neither was AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon when they named their mobile wallet solution ISIS shortly before the caliphate was formed. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softcard

I know someone whose major in college was abbreviated as Isys (information systems). Not anymore.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

#50
post #38
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon: Alexa Microsoft: Cortana Apple: Siri Discord: Clyde Google: Google Disclosure, I work at Google.

Written like that Google suddenly looks like geniuses.

Well, the verbification of the word google introduces its own difficulties there.

The ideal would be for the voice assistant to have some completely unique word, ideally with sound combinations that are very rare in your native language. And if for some reason, that still doesn't work for you, have a way to change it. Or maybe just not have a default, and require users to pick their own keyword.

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