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It's more fundamental than that. Some forms of speech can indirectly or directly limit the speech of others. Free speech absolutism in an unachievable panacea; it is a logical fallacy.

I'm not following you. What can I say that prevents you from saying something? That would seem to violate causality.

That causal violation is the exact problem with free speech aboslutism.

"You are not allowed to criticize the CCP" is speech.

"I order you to kill/hang that vice president" is speech, and the dead don't speak.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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Elon “free speech” Musk. >Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized. Guess this guy finally realized that a free for all model is not feasible.

> Elon “free speech” Musk.

Is your usage of quotations marks intended to adhere to one of these?

If so, which one, and how?

If not, what is the intent of them?

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https://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp

- Rule 1. Use double quotation marks to set off a direct (word-for-word) quotation.

Correct: “I hope you will be here,” he said.

Incorrect: He said that he “hoped I would be there.” (The quotation marks are incorrect because hoped I would be there does not state the speaker's exact words.)

- Rule 8a. Quotation marks are often used with technical terms, terms used in an unusual way, or other expressions that vary from standard usage.

Examples:

It's an oil-extraction method known as “fracking.”

He did some “experimenting” in his college days.

I had a visit from my “friend” the tax man.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's impossible to detect negative sentiment purely by text. It's an unsolvable problem.

True! How would it detect sarcasm. For eg. I love what he is doing to Twitter

In my experience people most often convey sarcasm on social media with emoji and the emoji is typically the most informative feature.

I hate my job :) -> probably loves their job.

I love my job :( -> probably hates their job.

Without emoji sarcasm is often hard to detect even for a human.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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Elon “free speech” Musk. >Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized. Guess this guy finally realized that a free for all model is not feasible.

It's impossible to detect negative sentiment purely by text. It's an unsolvable problem.

Having Elon in sole control of what is or isn’t acceptable speech is a feature, not a bug.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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Elon “free speech” Musk. >Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized. Guess this guy finally realized that a free for all model is not feasible.

It's impossible to detect negative sentiment purely by text. It's an unsolvable problem.

Presumably he’s going to realize this in a couple days and start trying to hire back the folks who were in charge of moderation, etc, on the platform.

The possibility that Twitter was configured the way it was when he bought it for a reason apparently didn’t occur to him.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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I'm certainly not a fan of how Musk has handled the Twitter takeover, but this sentiment, "New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach", seems highly reasonable to me, no? That is, what I find so awful about most social media (and places like YouTube) is how they focus on some of the most anger-inducing content for "engagement". That is, I think the problem is much more their algorithms than wha…

This is not a solvable problem. There is no algorithmic way to detect speech that needs to be boosted and deboosted on social media because there is no way to actually algorithmically detect what is truthful and what is just manipulative propaganda and marketing.

Quick! Someone write an AI that classifies the likelihood of informal fallacies.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

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Oh great, more unaccountable black-box "algorithms" that invisibly classify your tweets. Machines can't detect satire, they don't understand nuance or context, they don't understand tone. This will affect platform speech in strange ways as people naturally attempt to evade the algorithm. Twitter needs a dislike button. Every social media platform needs a mechanism for explicit negative feedback. Yes, people will use…

> Twitter needs a dislike button.

This IS twitters dislike button.

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