Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 186 posts

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#43

Post by lotsofpulp »

lbriner wrote: post #20

He was not given immunity, he has de-facto immunity due to his position. Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting their leaders? I can see that all working out. The truth is, I doubt there would be much decent evidence that would hold up in Court. It's like Russians being murdered outside of Russia, "of course" Putin would have had to order it but "of course" wouldn't cut…

>Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting their leaders? I can see that all working out.

I do not have a problem with that. If you want to be part of the civilized world, you have to act civilized. And if Qatar wants to arrest Biden for disrespect, then either Qatar’s leaders will find out what the US spends its military funds on, or US taxpayers will find out how much of a waste all those aircraft carriers were.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#44

Post by mc32 »

dmix wrote: post #16
djschnei wrote: post #2

We want to be green so we're trying to stop drilling for oil. But we also need oil because our society runs on it. This guy has oil. This guy can therefore do whatever he likes. This is obviously way better than drilling at home.

The most controversial thing in recent times (here in Canada too) isn't even drilling, it's moving oil efficiently over pipelines vs via dirty trucks and busy rail lines. There's much more opportunity for political activism when pipes go over lots of small pieces of land vs drilling one big piece of land.

This is what activists fail to understand for ideological reason. Oil will flow, one way or another: be it truck, rail or pipeline. The only thing that would stop the flow is cessation in demand. Which means their efforts would be better used agitating for wind, solar and other renewables.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#45

Post by elecush »

chinchilla2020 wrote: post #13
djschnei wrote: post #2

We want to be green so we're trying to stop drilling for oil. But we also need oil because our society runs on it. This guy has oil. This guy can therefore do whatever he likes. This is obviously way better than drilling at home.

America runs a close import/export balance now for oil. Please stop repeating twitter talking points until they become truth. https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/

why

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#47

Post by ww-picard-do »

djschnei wrote: post #2

We want to be green so we're trying to stop drilling for oil. But we also need oil because our society runs on it. This guy has oil. This guy can therefore do whatever he likes. This is obviously way better than drilling at home.

> This guy has oil. This guy can therefore do whatever he likes.

The article explains that as head of state internal law grants him immunity.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#48

Post by glogla »

TremendousJudge wrote: post #35
dmix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most controversial thing in recent times (here in Canada too) isn't even drilling, it's moving oil efficiently over pipelines vs via dirty trucks and busy rail lines. There's much more opportunity for political activism when pipes go over lots of small pieces of land vs drilling one big piece of land.

Pipelines are notoriously dirty, since the owners can't seem to stop them from leaking, spilling, blowing up, or otherwise malfunctioning. Wikipedia has a handy list of lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_... . If somebody wanted to put an oil pipeline near my property I'd definitely wouldn't feel safe with it there.

It is not that they can't - they just keep more money if they don't. Which shouldn't be surprising in an industry that is literally destroying the world to make money.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

#50

Post by selectodude »

cmh89 wrote: post #12
djschnei wrote: post #2

We want to be green so we're trying to stop drilling for oil. But we also need oil because our society runs on it. This guy has oil. This guy can therefore do whatever he likes. This is obviously way better than drilling at home.

The United States is the largest producer of oil in the world. We just don't nationalize it. We give it away to foreign owned oil corporations who then gouge us at the pump.

If you don't think Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Marathon, and ConocoPhillips aren't a de facto arm of the US Government I'm not sure what to tell you.
Post reply on HN