mastodon is surprisingly good, imo. I joined about a year ago. It worked fine, but it was basically dead for me. I didn't know who to follow and I couldn't find anything interesting to do. Everything changed in the last couple of weeks. It's busy now. People are posting and interacting. A large chunk of German twitter moved over to mastodon completely. And a good chunk of electronics twitter is also now on mastodon. My timeline is simply a chronological order of post of people that I follow, no suggested post, no advertisement, etc. It's very possible the whole twitter-is-dead talk will be over in a week. But mastodon has some real traction.
Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
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Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#42I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…
I saw their sign up page asking for Linkedin and whatnot, and noped out of there.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#43We've already got a replacement that's owned and administered by users, with no ads, that can't be bought and ruined by billionaires: Mastodon. The ex-twitter employees are already running their own server: macaw.social
If you think that Mastodon cannot be bought and ruined by billionaires, you are wrong. It's all too easy to imagine a (medium-term) future in which the largest Mastodon instance (or something highly compatible with it) will have more than half of the population of Mastodon in it, include advertisements in-feed, and make policy decisions that affect the rest of the Fediverse.
Sure, there are embrace-and-extinguish scenarios with decentralized protocols. But the alternative is that you’re always in the grip of some billionaire’s fever dream right from the start. Mastodon is live and resilient right now. The future is up to the users.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#44We've already got a replacement that's owned and administered by users, with no ads, that can't be bought and ruined by billionaires: Mastodon. The ex-twitter employees are already running their own server: macaw.social
The quicker the technorati accept that Mastadon will never have mass adoption even remotely close to Twitter, the better. Glad Mastadon is doing its thing being like the IRC of twitter or whatever, but there's absolutely no way it ever truly competes. It should just be happy being a niche product for a niche audience.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#45I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…
>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…
> Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN website, and recent Mastodon interest, etc) do not accomplish the same thing.
Not true; you can build and own your own "island" and grow the population of your "island" to be quite large. This can and does happen quite regularly. It's the only sensible thing to do, really, if you want to build a sustainable platform.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#46> Post will be a civil place to debate ideas; learn from experts, journalists, individual creators, and each other;
> Post is designed to give the voice back to the sidelined majority; there are enough platforms for extremists, and we cannot relinquish the town square to them.
If a licensed practicing doctor recommends against getting the covid vaccine, for reasons, is he an expert or an anti-vax extremist?
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#47How people don't get it - you can't succeed as an alternative to something. You need to build your own thing, find your product market fit with unique proposition. In 5y nobody will know about any of twitter alternatives that are launching these days. IMO even twitter didn't find its product market fit, that's why Musk is breaking it. The more people talk about twitter (in any way) and more people go with "alternativ…
The current burst of activity is very much a "scramble for lifeboats" as people attempt to preserve a fraction of their social graph on Mastodon. But there won't be a big drop off in Twitter activity or relevance until Twitter goes full fail whale. Or there's a serious effort to kill the community somehow.
(posting "joinmastodon.com" on twitter now gets you the "not allowed to post that link error. I guess this is what Elon means by free speech)
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#48I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb and I think more people are starting to get it. Why feed someone’s enterprise for free who will then turn it into a powerful walled garden, make billions in profit while eventually dictating what you can and can’t do on said platform. To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. Your own data is used against you. At this point…
So then build your own: https://qbix.com/platform
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#50Elon Musk is a clown and it would be very entertaining to watch him lose $44B as Twitter crashes and burns, like slipping on a banana peel. ...but, honestly, the idea of a large social network not reliant on advertising is interesting and I want to see it work out. I don't know much about this Noam Bardin person, but considering Waze is just another bottomless pit of data collection, my hopes aren't very high that th…
>but, honestly, the idea of a large social network not reliant on advertising is interesting
Who says this platform wouldn't be reliant on advertising? You need to provide free access to build your social graph, and then you need advertising to monetize it. Paid subscription is more of a supplement at best (think YouTube/YouTube Premium).