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Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by version_five »

partiallypro wrote: post #12

I think there are going to be two levels of shock: 1) Never give people an ultimatum. It basically never works in your favor. That was such a dumb thing by Elon and his team. I don't think Elon expected the numbers to be so high. 2) Workers often overestimate their own worth within a company or how easily they can be replaced. It's likely that all the people leaving saying Twitter is going to majorly break soon won't…

I find the colloquial use of "Elon" to be pretty lame, like when people call Mark Zuckerberg "Mark" only. News sources don't do that, it's usually only losers who either want to imply familiarity or refer to him in a vaguely disrespectful way. There are lots of instances where people would be getting upset over way less - here I just think it makes one look like a loser (not singling out the parent, there are lots of these), unless one is really in Musk's circle of friends and talking about him to other friends.

Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by sidibe »

version_five wrote: post #41
partiallypro wrote: post #12

I think there are going to be two levels of shock: 1) Never give people an ultimatum. It basically never works in your favor. That was such a dumb thing by Elon and his team. I don't think Elon expected the numbers to be so high. 2) Workers often overestimate their own worth within a company or how easily they can be replaced. It's likely that all the people leaving saying Twitter is going to majorly break soon won't…

I find the colloquial use of "Elon" to be pretty lame, like when people call Mark Zuckerberg "Mark" only. News sources don't do that, it's usually only losers who either want to imply familiarity or refer to him in a vaguely disrespectful way. There are lots of instances where people would be getting upset over way less - here I just think it makes one look like a loser (not singling out the parent, there are lots of…

He has a unique first name and likes to interact with regular people online. Internet people have used Elon for a long time even when they liked him. It happens to a lot of famous people with rare first names (e.g. Lebron Kobe Shaq)

Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by helf »

kccoder wrote: post #15
giantdude wrote: post #3

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And with any luck this charade will clue the previously clueless into this man's irrational, unstable nature, permanently removing the veneer of credibility and "coolness" that has been instrumental in his success thus far.

The legions of neckbeards who worship him as a real life Stark will follow him to their graves.

Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by version_five »

sidibe wrote: post #44
version_five wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the colloquial use of "Elon" to be pretty lame, like when people call Mark Zuckerberg "Mark" only. News sources don't do that, it's usually only losers who either want to imply familiarity or refer to him in a vaguely disrespectful way. There are lots of instances where people would be getting upset over way less - here I just think it makes one look like a loser (not singling out the parent, there are lots of…

He has a unique first name and likes to interact with regular people online. Internet people have used Elon for a long time even when they liked him. It happens to a lot of famous people with rare first names (e.g. Lebron Kobe Shaq)

His last name is unique as well, and would generally by how e.g a news org would refer to him. I still get the sense there is a certain type of post that uses the first name exclusively, either (maybe less now) a tech-bro-type implying familiarity, or now an outraged tech-adjacent type wanting to mildly show their superiority. Ymmv, it's just the impression I get, especially if you look at the content of posts that refer to him this way

I've seen people routinely feign outrage over people not addressed as "Dr" (which as someone with a PhD I think is ridiculous) - even though it's clearly a minor thing, I think people seem fine trying to subtly disrespect Musk through how he's addressed

Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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partiallypro wrote: post #12

I think there are going to be two levels of shock: 1) Never give people an ultimatum. It basically never works in your favor. That was such a dumb thing by Elon and his team. I don't think Elon expected the numbers to be so high. 2) Workers often overestimate their own worth within a company or how easily they can be replaced. It's likely that all the people leaving saying Twitter is going to majorly break soon won't…

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Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by throwaway23597 »

musesum wrote: post #46

Extreme commitment makes sense if you believe in the mission. Such as saving the planet with EVs. Not sure what Twitter's altruistic mission is. Giving up family life to enable trolls may not seen like a good trade.

+1. Musk needs to offer a compelling vision for what this platform should be. As of now I primarily know Twitter as the home of cancel culture, whiny journalists, and idiotic flame wars. That's not something I would devote 80+ hours a week of my life to, not by a long shot.

Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands

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Post by sigil »

toss1 wrote: post #11
labrador wrote: post #4

Kylie Robison (Tech reporter for @FortuneMagazine): What I’m hearing from Twitter employees; It looks like roughly 75% of the remaining 3,700ish Twitter employees have not opted to stay after the “hardcore” email. https://twitter.com/kyliebytes/status/1593391167718113280

That brings it down to under 1000 employees So Elon paid $44B for a company now with 900-odd employees. For a 10-year ROI, that's $4.4B per year profit, or $440 million/per employee For contrast, Netflix has the highest revenue per employee at $2.63 million/person, and Apple is second at $2.38 million, and Alphabet & Meta next at $1.64, and eBay at $0.9 million per employee. So, he'll need to get 200x the profitabili…

> So Elon paid $44B for a company now with 900-odd employees. For a 10-year ROI, that's $4.4B per year profit, or $440 million/per employee.

Your math is off. $4.4B per year profit / 1000 employees = $4.4M per year profit per employee.

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