LibreOffice blogs about Blockchain, locks comments after negative user feedback

Post by brabel » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:43 AM UTC

web3isgoing wrote: post #18

You would think a message board called "hacker news" would be more open to blue sky thinking. Zero knowledge proofs and a tamper proof ledger of timestamped cryptographic signatures could open up new use cases that are different than relying on central authorities. One idea, document signing: vitalik.eth signs a PDF, everybody can verify the PDF is signed by his private key. He has to broadcast his public key for thi…

Post by miohtama » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:44 AM UTC

sdiacom wrote: post #35

miohtama wrote: post #29

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You can find out what Ethereum Foundation does e.g. here https://esp.ethereum.foundation/about “ ESP focuses on strengthening Ethereum's foundations and enabling future builders: improving infrastructure, expanding the range of tools available to those building on Ethereum, deepening our understanding of cryptographic primitives, and growing the builder ecosystem through education and community development. The work…

So do you believe they opened talks with the people working on a word processor in order to "[deepen] their understanding of cryptographic primitives"? Is that what the LibreOffice blog post is about? Cryptographic primitives? It seems more likely to me that they were looking into "growing the [grifter] ecosystem through [...] community development" instead.

Post by hiq » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:45 AM UTC

sdiacom wrote: post #26

hiq wrote: post #17

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> A blockchain powers Secure Scuttlebutt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Scuttlebutt doesn't have the word blockchain on it, and from reading the protocol section, I don't think it uses a public blockchain as defined there: https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2019/02/theres_no_g... So you're just talking about something else, but as Schneier argues, anything other than a public blockchain is nothing new and…

Per the Wikipedia article: > User content in SSB is organized as an append-only sequence of immutable messages, where messages cryptographically sign adjacent messages for the purpose of guaranteeing unforgeabilitity of the sequences as they are replicated to other peers. That's pretty much a blockchain. Of course, they don't call it a blockchain themselves, because the Scuttlebutt people are not running a grift, the…

Post by fsflover » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:46 AM UTC

xigoi wrote: post #43

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> Because there are no use cases for blockchains. Someone in the comments on LibreOffice blog expressed the same opinion. Which surprised me. Has the consensus been reached among the serious non-grifting public that blockchains are useless to represent peer-to-peer trustless money? Has bitcoin been declared a failure?

Bitcoin is wasting humongous amounts of energy during a climate and energy crisis, which makes it morally unacceptable.

Post by h4kor » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:48 AM UTC

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Because there are no use cases for blockchains. Humanity spent billions (trillions?) of $ on this technology and there is no use for it. Now the people who sank their money into this, desperately try to find some fools to pass the hot potato to.

That isn't true. A blockchain powers Secure Scuttlebutt, Jami, Urbit, and has use anywhere a verified supply chain is needed. Because some people have politicized it, now all blockchains are scams or "useless". But this is demonstrably not true. It's just a technology and people have misused it but that doesn't render the technology itself useless or a scam.