At what point will developers just detect if it's being tested by the play store and just disable any feature which would prompt further review?
Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
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Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#42The ideal way this works is that you can sue them for a lot of money for doing this unfairly, so that they are forced to build a better system in order to avoid losing a lot of money.
Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#43Is there any large group representing App developers that could manage the large-scale negotiation and legal wrangling required to force Apple and Google to be more helpful when rejecting legitimate applications? When I worked in Google (Ads, then later in Recommendations for Play and youtube) people often said this was intention to avoid teaching spammers how to get around the rules. But it's clear there are enough…
A union for customers of monolithic tech companies who provide negligent support could be cool.
I've been chewing on this idea for a while now. I would love to join a software buyer's cooperative and pool my money with other like-minded individuals.
Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#44At this point, why not just add the link to report your non-UGC. If this is what they want, give it to them. You can just ignore the reports on the backend. You can probably remove it next update when you don't get Anthony since it's pretty clear it's just one stubborn, lazy reviewer. All that said - the Play Store and App Store review hell is one dystopia I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'm so happy to work on th…
Good thing web browsers aren't fully controlled by Google and Apple
This is why its the ethical responsibility of every dev to use Firefox when they can.
Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Automated rules and policies are saving Google hundreds of millions of dollars an hour; they don't want to open the floodgates of spammers reverse-engineering ways to socially engineer the hapless app review humans.
That sounds a lot like Google's problem, not ours.
Actually it sounds like our problem, given the content of TFA.
Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#46Is there any large group representing App developers that could manage the large-scale negotiation and legal wrangling required to force Apple and Google to be more helpful when rejecting legitimate applications? When I worked in Google (Ads, then later in Recommendations for Play and youtube) people often said this was intention to avoid teaching spammers how to get around the rules. But it's clear there are enough…
A union for customers of monolithic tech companies who provide negligent support could be cool.
Sounds like in this case it needs to be a craft union or industrial union: a union made up of laborers of a craft or industry (in this case, mobile app developers).
Get enough developers of high-profile apps on board, and now you have negotiating power. If they balk, make a union-controlled app store, threaten to sell apps only on the union store.
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#47Not only all this but the system doesn't work. The play store is flooded with low quality baiting garbage. Somehow their onerous policies block out legitimate users and have a VIP line for spammers
This is not entirely surprising since spammers have all day long to reverse engineer the process, while legitimate users have a business to run.
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#48If the future of customer-service is full of AI like “Anthony”, I’m moving to the woods.
I wonder if part of the problem is that Anthony is not a fluent English speaker, and perhaps does not realize that he is not as clear as he thinks he is.
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#49This whole app store thing with Apple/Google is BS. Imagine if your car could only drive to locations approved as safe by the car manufacturer, and they could auto-ban your Grandma's house with no recourse.
At least on Android you can install alternate app stores like F-Droid. All you have to do is allow apps to be installed from unknown sources. If you use Apple, you're just out of luck unless you want to mess with whatever hacky workaround is popular this week.
I have never felt the need to do so on iOS. I cannot say the same about Android.
Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer
#50We are well past the point that any respectable developer should simply drop the Play Store and tell users to buy a better phone. As long as you're willing to give them business, this system is working as intended. It's not going to change .
Exactly, pinephones for everyone! ...actually, doesn't Amazon have a separate store for Android? Anyone know if they're better?