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App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by HomePhone »

CharlesW wrote: post #36

It's interesting that the researchers assumed turning off the transmission of device analytics would also turn off the transmission of all app analytics, whether from Apple or third parties. I also wish they would've tried Lockdown Mode, at least.

Per the article, other vendors do just that: “He and his research partner ran similar tests in the past looking at analytics in Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge. In both of those apps, Mysk says the data isn’t sent when analytics settings are turned off.”

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Post by dangus »

Nullabillity wrote: post #30
dangus wrote: post #19

Unless this person shows us Settings > Privacy & Security > Analytics & Improvements, the only thing I can conclude is that they left the setting on and they’re confusing third party app tracking controls with Apple’s analytics setting.

Doesn't that just say more about how obtuse these settings are designed to be though?

No. The settings pane has multiple sentence explanations for what the privacy settings do.

You're asked whether you want to send analytics to Apple as soon as you set up any device.

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Post by gruez »

CharlesW wrote: post #36

It's interesting that the researchers assumed turning off the transmission of device analytics would also turn off the transmission of all app analytics, whether from Apple or third parties. I also wish they would've tried Lockdown Mode, at least.

>It's interesting that the researchers assumed turning off the transmission of device analytics would also turn off the transmission of all app analytics, whether from Apple

Given that the app store comes installed by default and can't be uninstalled, it seems fairly reasonable to assume that it's part of the OS. Therefore it's not unreasonable to assume that disabling "device analytics" would also disable app store analytics.

Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by judge2020 »

Nullabillity wrote: post #29
beders wrote: post #24

We use LogRocket to record all interactions with our front-ends and it's awesome for trouble shooting and also invaluable for our product managers. They can see where users are struggling with the app and where extra-guidance is necessary. I'm assuming many many many other apps and web pages are doing the same thing. Nothing to see here.

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Tracking how users use your own app is hardly malicious, in fact it's entirely in an effort to identify user frustration and solve it or otherwise improve the product. Tracking across different apps is definitely malicious, though.

Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by digitaltrees »

Nullabillity wrote: post #29
beders wrote: post #24

We use LogRocket to record all interactions with our front-ends and it's awesome for trouble shooting and also invaluable for our product managers. They can see where users are struggling with the app and where extra-guidance is necessary. I'm assuming many many many other apps and web pages are doing the same thing. Nothing to see here.

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What is malicious about monitoring use to provide a better product in service of users?

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Post by judge2020 »

altairprime wrote: post #28
tinus_hn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you do that, you lose all your apps and settings. Ergo, nobody does that. If you switch phones, you transfer the account. Also, Apple tracking what you do in their App Store is perhaps not very nice but doesn’t affect anyone in any detectable way so no normal person is going to go through the effort to avoid it, if they even know it is happening.

This argument’s logical error is declaring that an inconvenience takes higher precedence than the desired outcome. For example, I am seriously considering doing exactly what you describe as “nobody does that” — having to repurchase all my apps and redo all my settings — in order to complete my transgender name change. Apple refuses to purge my old deadname’s iCloud email address, and so if I want to remove it, I’ll n…

It's extremely easy to disregard and disable any mention of your iCloud email address. You can set an apple id's email itself in settings -> user -> "name, phone numbers, email" which changes what nearly every part of the OS refers to. I forgot I even had one until I read this comment.

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Post by [deleted] »

Nullabillity wrote: post #29
beders wrote: post #24

We use LogRocket to record all interactions with our front-ends and it's awesome for trouble shooting and also invaluable for our product managers. They can see where users are struggling with the app and where extra-guidance is necessary. I'm assuming many many many other apps and web pages are doing the same thing. Nothing to see here.

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Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by MereInterest »

judge2020 wrote: post #45
Nullabillity wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Tracking how users use your own app is hardly malicious, in fact it's entirely in an effort to identify user frustration and solve it or otherwise improve the product. Tracking across different apps is definitely malicious, though.

Tracking how users use their own phones is certainly malicious. Regardless of whether they are using an application that you wrote, it is their phone.
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