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Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#41

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a11y is no more a "nice to have" than a wheelchair ramp. It's a legal and moral requirement. This is like saying security is "nice to have"

There are no moral requirements

Unless you're trying to be edgy (which is not obvious), this make you sound like a psychopath.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#42
post #41

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There are no moral requirements

Unless you're trying to be edgy (which is not obvious), this make you sound like a psychopath.

I’m simply stating the obvious. The parent commenter is factually incorrect.

Relying on companies to self police morality is an idealistic view that results in failure. That’s where the democracy and government part comes in.

Twitter is required by law to be compliant with accessibility standards, and so they will be. Whether or not this team is laid off doesn’t change that

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#43

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Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, now many trying to impose their will on Twitter’s actions all of a sudden. Huh

In what delusional world could private companies ever 'do whatever they wanted'? We have huge legal tomes filled with laws to prevent this sort of sociopathic thinking from becoming reality for the sake of profit.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#44

This is a real bummer. An app with as wide and diverse a user base as Twitter needs to take accessibility seriously. You can't be the public square if a significant fraction of people are excluded.

We all hate to see people losing their jobs, but it's been known for a very long time that Twitter had an extremely bloated headcount. I'm not at all surprised that something called the "Accessibility Experience Team" was one of the first groups to get cut.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#45
post #41

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Unless you're trying to be edgy (which is not obvious), this make you sound like a psychopath.

I’m simply stating the obvious. The parent commenter is factually incorrect. Relying on companies to self police morality is an idealistic view that results in failure. That’s where the democracy and government part comes in. Twitter is required by law to be compliant with accessibility standards, and so they will be. Whether or not this team is laid off doesn’t change that

And I agree, but that is not how I read your comment.

If you expanded it with "There are no moral requirements... for companies to provide accessibility features" it would have been entirely different story.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#46

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Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, now many trying to impose their will on Twitter’s actions all of a sudden. Huh

> Huh

Before you let that cynicism build up too much, for the record, not all of us Elon+Twitter skeptics have a problem with the $8 thing. You're just not going to hear from any one who didn't have an issue with it.

Related: Is there a quippy term or a fallacy for the (very natural!) habit of treating a random sample of a million voices and expecting a coherent message from them? I feel like it's related but distinct from a strawman.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#47

This is a real bummer. An app with as wide and diverse a user base as Twitter needs to take accessibility seriously. You can't be the public square if a significant fraction of people are excluded.

We all hate to see people losing their jobs, but it's been known for a very long time that Twitter had an extremely bloated headcount. I'm not at all surprised that something called the "Accessibility Experience Team" was one of the first groups to get cut.

Uh... Why?

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#48
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, now many trying to impose their will on Twitter’s actions all of a sudden. Huh

In what delusional world could private companies ever 'do whatever they wanted'? We have huge legal tomes filled with laws to prevent this sort of sociopathic thinking from becoming reality for the sake of profit.

Before it was about freedom of speech for private corporations to control their platforms however they wanted.

Now it’s all about rules and regulations.

Huh

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#49
post #45

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I’m simply stating the obvious. The parent commenter is factually incorrect. Relying on companies to self police morality is an idealistic view that results in failure. That’s where the democracy and government part comes in. Twitter is required by law to be compliant with accessibility standards, and so they will be. Whether or not this team is laid off doesn’t change that

And I agree, but that is not how I read your comment. If you expanded it with "There are no moral requirements... for companies to provide accessibility features" it would have been entirely different story.

People can read into it whatever they want. I was just stating a fact.

Personally I’m perturbed that so many people expect society to work out of goodwill and not through enforced regulations decided by the voters.

Certainly that world would be nice, but it’s naive and ineffective

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#50

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a11y is no more a "nice to have" than a wheelchair ramp. It's a legal and moral requirement. This is like saying security is "nice to have"

There are no moral requirements

The American Disabilities Act would like a word with you.
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