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Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Having it brought to my attention, and as someone who never got into twitter, I figured I'd give it a shot and see if it fit my desires better. So far it mostly just doesn't work, so that's neat.

What specifically do you mean by "mostly just doesn't work"?

I couldn't finish sign-up because the servers seem overwhelmed (confirmation email)

But I'm wondering how something like Mastodon could scale to people having millions of followers.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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I spun up my own instance today (just for me). It’s not super hard but equally it’s not straightforward. Admittedly I could just have signed up on an existing instance but this felt like a better way to understand the platform and what it offers.

I’ve been off social media for some time so I figure I’ll give it a few weeks and see how it goes.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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The Mastodon software is not horizontally scalable. So, each instance is forced to be relatively small. One instance will not be able to handle millions of users.

If federation works as intended this should not be a problem since it should (...) not matter whether someone uses server_X.org or server_Y.net. As to whether this works in practice I have no real idea. I have self-hosted a number of Peertube instances which also support activitypub and am on-and-off experimenting with a Pixelfed instance ("Instagram goes activitypub") but since these are all small-scale experiments they neither prove nor dispell the utility of activitypub-as-a-protocol.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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A lot of this overreaction reminds me of when Facebook bought WhatsApp. All the alternatives came up for a few weeks/months, but the dust settled and not that many left in the end. Maybe it’s different this time? But the cycle feels the same

Signal is gradually gaining adoption in the circles that I am in. Few years ago? Unusable. Now, many of the people I meet are fine starting a signal chat instead of SMS.

Yep. I have tons of people on signal today, and when I started it was just 1 or 2. About half came after the whatsapp exodus, and then it's been a steady trickle.

To be clear, it's still not enough to start a group chat with random people because of course that's a problem in 2022.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Just got this in my email because I signed up in Patreon as a supporter of a Mastodon node:

"So our IndieWeb server has seen a 4,333% spike in users, and every day is a new record in daily new users sign ups .... In that same time we have done one major server upgrade, and have had zero down time, and as we screen all new users before joining, so far have had zero cases of spammers or scammers from inside the instance itself. And been vigilant about blocking outside actors selling their wares or trying to push sypware, etc."

Let that sink in. 4,333% user sign ups on just this one node.

Mastodon as a whole added almost 300,000 users in the last week, and the rate of addition keeps climbing. Right now it's somewhere around 4000 signups an hour. Earlier in the week it was about 1000. Just under 100,000 people signed up in the last 24 hours. There's about 20,000 posts an hour, vs a much smaller amount two weeks ago. (I had to look at the numbers again and edit this post after I posted it, because they had jumped a bunch since I last looked a couple hours ago.)

It's not an overreaction or hysteria. It's a lot of people voting with their feet. In large part because they were already annoyed by Twitter before Musk even took over and were already open to trying something new. It's within the last month that Kanye West was mouthing off anti-Semitic slurs, before Musk even took over. And one can expect Trump to come back and start stirring the drama pot again. And Twitter's engagement "algorithm" means people get exposed to all this ugliness and the drama around it whether they hunt for it or not. I for one could never stand it and never got hooked in that world. On Mastodon I only see the interesting people I hunt for. It's a breath of fresh air.

It doesn't matter if they all stay. It doesn't have to replace Twitter. It's just something new. Twitter can remain, being what it is -- a cesspool of celebrity, narcissism, self-marketing and pithy, mean quips. It's always been that. Now it will just be worse because many of its more sophisticated users will migrate elsewhere.

In the meantime I welcome fresh blood over to Mastodon.

This is about the 4th? article about Mastodon to make the front page of HN in the last 24 hours? It's amusing that every time one gets posted most of the comments are naysaying, critical, and defensive, and "it will never amount to anything". Meanwhile, the growth continues...

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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> Why can't it get enough reach? > What if each news outlet ran their own server? I think you answered your own question.

Email is run just like this and it has plenty of reach.

Nobody uses email to discover new email addresses, outreach is direct. Discoverability is a massive part of social media platforms and is hindered by the isolated pod structure that Mastodon supports

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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The “Vertically Integrated Messaging Apparatus” is in overdrive this weekend, now providing manuals on how to sign up for a different social network that none of them heard of last week because of Current Thing. We’re going to hear exaggerated stories about how no one uses Twitter anymore and everyone who is anyone is on Mastodon. The articles will be tweeted, of course.

Wake me up when people start publishing RSS feeds again and I'll accept the claims of federated platform.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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What specifically do you mean by "mostly just doesn't work"?

I couldn't finish sign-up because the servers seem overwhelmed (confirmation email) But I'm wondering how something like Mastodon could scale to people having millions of followers.

Pleroma does what Mastodon't.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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>there is an overreaction to new Twitter management Oh i think its a perfectly legitimate and reasonable reaction to new Twitter management. a guy worth about 200bn USD spent his first day at the office dragging a piece of plumbing around cheerleading his impending job cuts and upcoming $8 surcharge for a feature that only really benefits and legitimizes the platform. he then axes most of the company, especially the…

Why does it matter how much he’s worth? Never understood why people are so concerned about him cutting jobs? He bought the company and took it private. It’s his right to restructure it and try to make it generate profit as he’d wish. The board of directors of public Twitter approved of this. What do people think, the USA is FOSS?

Because there is something distasteful about a man that rich firing loads of people. There is something almost medieval about it. He's basically a modern day king. I've never understood the complete lack of empathy displayed by so many people on HN. It's worse than Reddit.

"He bought the man, it is his property now. He can do with him as he wishes" - legal ownership can still be wrong.

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