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Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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It's not (only) artificial intelligence we're after, it's artificial consciousness. As noted in this article, machines already outperform humans at many tasks that humans solve with intelligence. Every year, there are new breakthroughs in that direction, and the list of tasks that humans can do better than machines is rapidly shrinking. We're well on our way to solving artificial intelligence. So why does it feel lik…

> It appears to me that the entire field of AI research is utterly confused about this elementary distinction.

That is because consciousness isn't a scientific concept but a philosophical, and sometimes religious one.

>What we're really looking for is a machine that, like a human, decides on its own which problems to solve, and solves them without needing to be specifically directed to do so.

We already have AI based agents that do this but no matter how sophisticated they are people can always claim they are hardwired and deterministic, while not realizing we can always claim the same thing about humans. Again these are distinctions of philosophy word games and therefore don't find get much traction in the research world.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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It's not (only) artificial intelligence we're after, it's artificial consciousness. As noted in this article, machines already outperform humans at many tasks that humans solve with intelligence. Every year, there are new breakthroughs in that direction, and the list of tasks that humans can do better than machines is rapidly shrinking. We're well on our way to solving artificial intelligence. So why does it feel lik…

Agreed, artificial consciousness. Not just can a machine paint an image that sells for $100K but it can ask the question why should it. The issue with decisions on that level is they are not based on binary input lines, they are based more on feeling.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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post #42
post #33

It's not (only) artificial intelligence we're after, it's artificial consciousness. As noted in this article, machines already outperform humans at many tasks that humans solve with intelligence. Every year, there are new breakthroughs in that direction, and the list of tasks that humans can do better than machines is rapidly shrinking. We're well on our way to solving artificial intelligence. So why does it feel lik…

> It appears to me that the entire field of AI research is utterly confused about this elementary distinction. That is because consciousness isn't a scientific concept but a philosophical, and sometimes religious one. >What we're really looking for is a machine that, like a human, decides on its own which problems to solve, and solves them without needing to be specifically directed to do so. We already have AI based…

> can always claim they are hardwired and deterministic

Correct, AI is based on computer mechanics, a model, a model that can go south when even a single input medium provides sufficiently nonsensical input.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It appears to me that the entire field of AI research is utterly confused about this elementary distinction. That is because consciousness isn't a scientific concept but a philosophical, and sometimes religious one. >What we're really looking for is a machine that, like a human, decides on its own which problems to solve, and solves them without needing to be specifically directed to do so. We already have AI based…

> can always claim they are hardwired and deterministic Correct, AI is based on computer mechanics, a model, a model that can go south when even a single input medium provides sufficiently nonsensical input.

Again, this also happens to humans all the time too with degrading robustness the lower down on the intelligence chain you get (we are hardwired and deterministic too after all, same physics apply to everyone)

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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I’ve been starting to wonder, is GPT-3 the beginning of AGI? I know, I know, it’s just a language model. But I’ve been thinking. About my thinking. I think in words. I solve problems in words. I communicate results in words. If I had no body, and you could only interact with me via text, would I look that much different than GPT? Does AGI really need anything more than words? Is it possible that simply adding more pa…

Imo what's really missing is a kind of consciousness, or something to drive the system. If gpt3 could be adapted to run over some internal state instead of just a chat log, and came with some system that updated it (and that state stayed internally consistent), I'd be more inclined to believe it was closer to general intelligence.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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I’ve been starting to wonder, is GPT-3 the beginning of AGI? I know, I know, it’s just a language model. But I’ve been thinking. About my thinking. I think in words. I solve problems in words. I communicate results in words. If I had no body, and you could only interact with me via text, would I look that much different than GPT? Does AGI really need anything more than words? Is it possible that simply adding more pa…

Please see the article itself. One that really resonates with me now is "putting a child to sleep" - that at often is one of the most trying things I do these days.

What often gives a clue that the child has slept is a slight change in muscle tone, or a sigh, perhaps the pace at which the baby sucks its thumb. How can that be translated into words?

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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It's not (only) artificial intelligence we're after, it's artificial consciousness. As noted in this article, machines already outperform humans at many tasks that humans solve with intelligence. Every year, there are new breakthroughs in that direction, and the list of tasks that humans can do better than machines is rapidly shrinking. We're well on our way to solving artificial intelligence. So why does it feel lik…

> It appears to me that the entire field of AI research is utterly confused about this elementary distinction. That is because consciousness isn't a scientific concept but a philosophical, and sometimes religious one. >What we're really looking for is a machine that, like a human, decides on its own which problems to solve, and solves them without needing to be specifically directed to do so. We already have AI based…

> We already have AI based agents that do this

Example?

> but no matter how sophisticated they are people can always claim they are hardwired and deterministic, while not realizing we can always claim the same thing about humans.

Humans are certainly not "hardwired" to prove mathematical statements, yet they do. That's not comparable to self-driving cars that are able to navigate in situations that they haven't encountered before.

Regardless of whether you consider consciousness a philosophical concept, it's clear that the human mind has a property that the current generation of AI agents does not emulate at all. This is not a "word game" but an observable distinction between humans and every existing artificial system.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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It's not (only) artificial intelligence we're after, it's artificial consciousness. As noted in this article, machines already outperform humans at many tasks that humans solve with intelligence. Every year, there are new breakthroughs in that direction, and the list of tasks that humans can do better than machines is rapidly shrinking. We're well on our way to solving artificial intelligence. So why does it feel lik…

After I wrote my comment* I found yours and came here to agree with you.

We don't seem to be missing speed of thought or memory problems, but a fundamental lack of "why".

Humans are programmed to reproduce and it's not easy. What drive to machines have to think, but clock speed?

*https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33416814

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