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Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Of all the places spreadsheet is probably the one place you don’t want AI generated content. Half the time it’s financial info so sorta correct simply isn’t good enough

Most real-world spreadsheets contained significant errors in this 2005 review: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228662532_What_We_K...

Is there any reason to think the situation has substantially improved since then?

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

Maybe? Is it really going to be all that different from the past thousand years where we've had 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong[0] human-generated crap?

[0] https://ncse.ngo/americans-scientific-knowledge-and-beliefs-...

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

What happens if you try to ask GPT-3 whether something was written by GPT-3?

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

What happens if you try to ask GPT-3 whether something was written by GPT-3?

Just listen here - https://infiniteconversation.com/

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Do I understand that correctly? When I have to create a spreadsheet like this, there are 2 options. Option 1 I write a table zipcode to state and use this table to generate my column. If I carefully check my table my spreadsheet would be okay. Option 2 I ask GPT3 to do my work. But I have to check the whole spreadsheet for errors.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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post #36
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on how people use the tools. For example the thank you note one -- if someone just prints off the output of this and sends it, yeah, that's bad. But if someone uses this to do 90% of the work and then just edits it to make it personal and sound like themselves, then it's just a great time saving tool. I mean, in this exact example, 70 years ago you'd have to hand address each thank you card by hand from sc…

> But if someone uses this to do 90% of the work and then just edits it to make it personal and sound like themselves, then it's just a great time saving tool. This is still way too optimistic. Reading through something that's "almost right", seeing the errors when you already basically know what it says / what it's meant to say, and fixing them, is hard. People won't do it well, and so even in this scenario we often…

Just train another AI model to do it then! I'm not joking -- Stable Diffusion generates some pretty grotesque and low quality faces, but there are add-on models that can identify and greatly improve the faces as part of the processing pipeline.

Doesn't seem like a stretch to have similar mini-models to improve known deficiencies in larger general models in the textual space.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

Idea: Use GPT-3 to identify GPT-3-generated snippets.

This, but unironically. It could be used to further improve the snippets that weren't identified.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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post #33

The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

Idea: Use GPT-3 to identify GPT-3-generated snippets.

In some cases it would be impossible, since sometimes it can output exactly what was written by a human, or something that sounds 100% like what someone would write.

But if you allow some false negatives, such as trying to detect if a bot is a bot, I think that could work? But I feel like the technology to write fake text is inevitably going to outpace the ability to detect it.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send into real humans’ brains makes my head spin. There’s truly an awful AI Winter ahead and it consists of spending a substantial amount of your best brain cycles on figuring out whether a real person wrote that thing to you (and it’s worth figuring out what they meant in case of some weird wording) or it was a computer generat…

> The amount of 90% sensible, 10% ridiculously wrong computer generated crap we’re about to send Agreed. Sooner or later a company is going to do this with its customers, in ways that are fine 95% of the time but cause outrage or even harm on outliers. And if that company is anyone like Google, it'll be almost impossible for the customers to speak to a human to rectify things.

And the funniest is that actual people may be worse, but still it is freaking me out to be moderated by an AI.

Also when this is normal and ubiquitous come people who are playing it and AI will be just dumb to recognise, the real humans all fired, game over, stuck at shitty systems and everyone goes crazy.

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