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Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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Mindstorms has a long compelling history before LEGO, that includes cybernetics, the Logo programming language, turtle graphics, Braitenberg vehicles, and the rise of the MIT Media Lab.

See the book "Mindstorms: Children, Computers, And Powerful Ideas" by Seymour Papert. Free from MIT.

https://mindstorms.media.mit.edu

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(programming_language)

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_graphics

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Braitenberg_vehicle

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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Sad to see this as someone who enjoyed these as a kid and entering robotics competitions based off of them; hopefully the new products will keep the spirit alive. There was even some decent FOSS tooling that developed on top of Mindstorms: I used NXC (Not eXactly C, https://bricxcc.sourceforge.net/nbc/welcome.html ) which was a C-like language for programming Lego Mindstorms. It looks like the last release of NXC was…

I grew up using mindstorms in FLL and I just began coaching a team this year. I'm pretty impressed with the new Spike Prime, and although it has its quirks, over all I'd say it's a good improvement over the last generation, plus I get to teach the kids python which has honestly been a blast!

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3D print these suckers? Famously, LEGO has an extremely tight manufacturing tolerance that's around 10um [1]. Your 3d printer is much better than mine. :) 1. Page 8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego#cite_ref-Companyprofile_3...

SLA printer could do it, they even mention using it for prototyping on the wiki page

With SLA resin at $90 a liter, I don't know much much money you'd actually save.

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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That's somewhat bittersweet. The company I now work for and lead was inspired by mindstorms. Our founder had written a DOS based software for alarm receiving centers. Even back then he and his prime customer were unsatisfied with the restricting logic of managing alarms by only having a few choices how to react to an alarm. Usually show some text, and have a person call someone and then write up a protocol. So he bui…

Bittersweet‽ What's the sweet part of Lego discontinuing Mindstorms?

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Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

#46
This is sad. Lego Mindstorms played a huge role in my life trajectory. I discovered RCX and NXT in middle school, absolutely loved building stuff with them and went to robotics competitions.

It got me really interested in robotics to the point where I decided I would move halfway across the world for college to get educated further in robotics. I did that and I am now a professional roboticist. None of that would’ve happened if it wasn’t for Lego Mindstorms. Sad to see it go. Their spike prime kit looks way too basic compared to how mature and extensible the mindstorms ecosystem is.

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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Any alternatives that anyone could suggest for young children looking to get an introduction to robotics?

There is Fischertechnik, a German brand. Don't know how common it is outside Germany. It's pretty close to "real" robotics/construction. https://www.fischertechnik.de/en

I'm aware of it... and its one of the "when I get my desk lego things done, I'll get one of them to play with" - https://www.fischertechnik.de/en/products/simulating/trainin... has been particularly tempting.

The factory must grow into real space.

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

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That's somewhat bittersweet. The company I now work for and lead was inspired by mindstorms. Our founder had written a DOS based software for alarm receiving centers. Even back then he and his prime customer were unsatisfied with the restricting logic of managing alarms by only having a few choices how to react to an alarm. Usually show some text, and have a person call someone and then write up a protocol. So he bui…

Bittersweet‽ What's the sweet part of Lego discontinuing Mindstorms?

They're likely shifting focus to a different programmable block product line, namely SPIKE Prime. So it's more of a changing of the guard than the end of robotic educational LEGO.

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

#49

Lego is similar to Nint€ndo and Di$ney, they do not support the free culture, instead their lawers fight agains to free software projects or charity events. Any educational tool/toy must be public domain or free license.

What if this kind of thinking would lead to no Legos at all?

There's always K'Nex.

Re: Lego Is Discontinuing Mindstorms

#50
RIP My Robotics professor developed ROBOLAB with Lego + LabView. In return, Lego funded part of the robotics department. We had the most amazing Lego lab. Bins of every shape piece you could ask for. It was really a childhood dream come to life.
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