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Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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Off topic: Why does every company use the word "sunsetting" these days instead of "ending", "shutting down" etc.? I cringe every time I read it.

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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post #37

Off topic: Why does every company use the word "sunsetting" these days instead of "ending", "shutting down" etc.? I cringe every time I read it.

And “deprecating” when they’re actually removing.

(In general, “deprecating” is what’s being done no later than when they announce the pending removal. Deprecation means that it still works for now, but is not recommended and may go away in the future.)

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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Electron (accidentally) broke Windows 7 support last month, and as a result a number of applications broke for Windows 7 if they used that Electron version (e.g. VSCode). Lots of people complained. It was a fairly minor thing and was quickly fixed by the Electron people. My favourite comment in one of the threads about it: "Related "MS ended support for Win7" - sorry, how it corresponds to development?! Does your ope…

Well, the older version of VSCode worked too ...

It's true.. If they are fine using and old OS, they should be fine with an old VSCode release.

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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post #37

Off topic: Why does every company use the word "sunsetting" these days instead of "ending", "shutting down" etc.? I cringe every time I read it.

Corporate PR drones probably think it sound better than the words you used. Another dark pattern really.

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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Electron (accidentally) broke Windows 7 support last month, and as a result a number of applications broke for Windows 7 if they used that Electron version (e.g. VSCode). Lots of people complained. It was a fairly minor thing and was quickly fixed by the Electron people. My favourite comment in one of the threads about it: "Related "MS ended support for Win7" - sorry, how it corresponds to development?! Does your ope…

You just need to be really really careful about downloading anything (through user action or by the system) to it because there will be a long list of exploits to choose from for anyone wanting a free bitcoin farm. Microsoft might even be paying the 'security researchers' to come up with more. Forking over a couple hundred to uncle Bill for protection every five years or so is not entirely pointless.

You're right of course, but I do think the quote accurately represents the feelings a lot of people had, and continue to have, even when they know they should upgrade (and most likely, already have upgraded) due to lack of support.

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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The introduction of the hybrid interface in Windows 8 was the beginning of the end. The new 'Setup' versus the old Control Panel and how there's some crossover, but not complete. God, they messed things up. Yeah, I think 7 was the last good version. 8.1 was "sorry for 8.0" but the damage was done and the path forward (wonkily sideways and backwards) was set.

> The introduction of the hybrid interface in Windows 8 was the beginning of the end What's this end your are taking about? People day that about every new version of Windows at least since the 95 release and it doesn't seem to be happening.

I took this comment to mean that "for this person" it was the beginning of the end. I feel the same way. Windows 8 and onward got really weird really fast for a lot of people who used Windows for decades. I'm not saying the old style is better for everyone, just me.

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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But why discard the PC? It can run Windows 10 perfectly well.

Linux gives new life to old PCs and laptops. I've had great success with Lubuntu and Pop OS.

In my experience, engineering tools tend to not run well (or at all) on Linux, even with WINE. I don't mean SolidWorks and AutoCAD - programs like Compress, Caesar II, CFTurbo, MAGMA (not the CAS), Carrier HAP; in short, all those engineering tools you never hear the name of before you start working in the relevant industry.

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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7 was great. 8 was okay. 10 is great but I don't like the encroachment of ads. Why do I have an advertising ID now? Why do I have ads in my start menu and lock screen? 11 is even worse by the looks of it. The decline definitely began at 8 and has accelerated recently.

I had Win 10 Pro and now Win 11 Pro and never saw any ads. Is this something in the Home edition?

I have Win 10 pro and noticed a magnifying glass icon in the start menu with something about soccer that presumably would open Edge. Ie. An ad. There was a setting i never saw before "occasionally show suggestions in start" that I had to disable.

Zoinks!

There are also lock screen ads by default called "windows spotlight"

This is the kind of user disrespecting stuff that I switched to Fedora for. I paid for your damn operating system. Stop jerking me around

Re: Chrome: Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8.1 in early 2023

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> The introduction of the hybrid interface in Windows 8 was the beginning of the end What's this end your are taking about? People day that about every new version of Windows at least since the 95 release and it doesn't seem to be happening.

I took this comment to mean that "for this person" it was the beginning of the end. I feel the same way. Windows 8 and onward got really weird really fast for a lot of people who used Windows for decades. I'm not saying the old style is better for everyone, just me.

I actually meant it globally, but if I was a better person I would have meant it "for me, personally" ;)

> I'm not saying the old style is better for everyone, just me

I'm on the same page. But also, I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with getting used to the new interface, except it doesn't show all the things the old interface had, some of which I use(d) frequently enough to be annoyed about their absence, meaning that I'd have to go back to the old interface, in turn meaning that I can't yet forget the old to make brain-space for the new. I find this infuriating, possibly because it highlights my brain's personal tech-debt; some kind of "curse of knowing".

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