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5 Years of Pop _OS

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Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#42

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If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

I just had NixOS break in a weird way for me. Ok, it was more that Gnome 42.4 broke the wsmatrix extension, which caused Gnome to shit itself[1] on login. It's a little bit of a double edged sword. NixOS lets me use pretty much straight upstream packages, which sometimes break due to not having thorough integration testing like a traditional distro would. On the other hand, I was able to just boot up an older configu…

Assuming you are just rebooting after upgrading, and it broke, the bootup screen allows you to choose an earlier generation to boot, so you will be right back at a functional system with zero effort. You can then go to your config and roll back that change.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#43

I'm a Linux idiot, just got sick of Windows, and took the plunge in 2016. (After some ill-fated tinkering in 1996 with Slackware, but we don't speak of that.) I started with Ubuntu and had a pretty good time for a year or two, until a dist-upgrade broke everything. Luckily /home/ was easy to restore from backup. So I was fine for another two years on Ubuntu until another dist-upgrade broke everything again. Sensing a…

> but I think that's for people with bigger screens so I turned it off so my alt-tab reflexes work again.

I actually use tiling the most in my small screens.... because I effectively have 1 or two windows full screen or split. It's the hotkeys that make it really slick

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#44

Been a happy PopOS user on Thinkpad X1 Extreme for about 3 years now. Big fan

Last year I finally replaced my old Macbook Pro with a Thinkpad running Pop OS. I'm so pleased with the operating system and the hardware.

I want to support System76, but I read some not so positive anecdotes about their laptop's build quality, so went with the Thinkpad. I also wanted/needed a centered keyboard layout without numberpad, which they don't offer. Their desktop models look nice, but feel like a luxury when I can get a custom-built PC and just install Linux on it.

Anyway, Pop OS is wonderful. I actually installed it on the old MBP too, and gave it new life.

In addition: the Nordic theme makes for a beautiful interface, it's like what macOS should have become.

https://github.com/EliverLara/Nordic

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#45
Pop OS is great, specially their system76-power package, which allows my Nvidia Optimus based laptop to run just fine. I prefer running KDE Plasma, so I'm using Kubuntu these days, I would love to see a Plasma spin-off of Pop, but I won't blame them if they prefer to stick to Gnome only and focus on consistency.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#46

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How did Bluetooth turn out for ya? I installed the OS on a ROG Zephyrus (Windows gaming laptop) and everything works beautifully (even WiFi) except for Bluetooth. It simply stopped working after a while.

Bluetooth works fine for me on both System76 Thelio and my Lenovo Legion laptop. Well, except for the crappy BT audio, but IIUC that problem isn't listed to Pop_OS.

> Well, except for the crappy BT audio, but IIUC that problem isn't listed to Pop_OS.

Depends on if they've updated to PipeWire or not. PulseAudio/ALSA are terrible at negotiating Bluetooth connections, but PipeWire has been rock-solid in my experience. Since Pop is still on x11 they probably haven't updated yet, but it's likely coming soon.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

I just had NixOS break in a weird way for me. Ok, it was more that Gnome 42.4 broke the wsmatrix extension, which caused Gnome to shit itself[1] on login. It's a little bit of a double edged sword. NixOS lets me use pretty much straight upstream packages, which sometimes break due to not having thorough integration testing like a traditional distro would. On the other hand, I was able to just boot up an older configu…

To be fair, this would also happen on any other OS that's tracking upstream changes. It sounds like you might be using nixos-unstable, which is unfortunately susceptible to those problems. Like colordrops said though, rolling back your OS is a thankfully a cinch. Even if someone managed to rm -rf / your box, a fresh reinstall with your complete dev environment is less than 10 minutes away, if your internet connection can keep up.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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post #19

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Are their desktop PCs built around standard boards? I presume their 'Thelio' is Mini-ITX form factor? It sounds condescending of them to omit the exact model names of their hardware in their 'tech specs' section. I, for one, would like to know what exact model of motherboard I would be getting when I choose 'AMD' or 'Intel Advanced' in the 'Platform' section. Same goes for RAM, SSD, etc.

The exact model? That seems like a higher standard than other computer companies are expected to meet. It sounds like you ought to build your own PC if you care about every single component.

Maybe you're right. I never bought a PC from any of the name brand 'computer companies' and maybe there's no sense to start now.

Just wanted to compare their Thelio mini PC to my last PC setup in a NCASE M1* Mini-ITX case and found that their 'tech specs' page (intentionally?) lacking.

*NCASE M1 cases are discontinued, but are widely available secondhand.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Yep I've had the exact same experience. I love that pop is setup out of the box to work well with flatpaks and flathub too--I rarely have to mess with out of date debs, the pain of snaps, etc. The gnome extensions they pack in for tiling windows, adding desktop icons, are fantastic too. It just works.

No snaps is good but 1. Slack is a snap. Do you have to run it in the browser? I don't know if desktop sharing works well there, it's been years since I only used their app (Electron?) 2. Is flatpack optional or are there some mandatory flatpack apps that are part of the system? I'd like a deb only system. 3. Contrary to some of us I don't want to use a tiling window manager. Can I keep using my heavily customized Gn…

1. There's a Slack flatpak based on the .deb distribution. You could also install the .deb directly from Slack.

2. I'm not sure how mandatory flatpak is. I suspect it's optional, but I'd suggest testing removal on a non-essential install before committing to it.

3. The tiling feature is completely optional and can be disabled easily in the settings.

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