Shrinkflation hits hard everywhere
Shrinkflation means getting less while paying the same price. For instance: less milk in the same package while still paying €1.50. This is inflation: price increase while still getting the same.
Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
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Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#42With Pro accounts limited to 100 users, I believe this is a good opportunity to recall [0], that lists businesses that overprice SSO [0] https://sso.tax/
The SSO Wall of Shame
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31175300
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Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#43This is a ~15-30% increase. Truly wild. Meanwhile I can’t remember the last time one of the new features made my life easier.
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#44Its unfortunate Docker came out of the VC space instead of being a hobby/research project with no intentions of making money. Solomon Hykes could have been the next Linus Torvalds and Docker could have been completely encompassed by a foundation, with the development being funded by a consortium of businesses each keeping each other in check as in the kernel. As it stands Docker seems to have burnt a lot of open sour…
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. If you gatekeep SSO, your product is not even considered. There are enough alternatives, so it is not a problem.
I find it funny that people say things like this, because not only is it demonstrably not true looking at different product segments, but even if it was you're basically admitting to self-selecting as a customer who would never have paid in the first place and so companies are overjoyed that you're not using them. "I would have paid you if you gave me X for free" is the biggest lie.
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#46> The list price of the Docker Business subscription will go up by $3, to $24 per user per month (Business is only available on an annual basis). I hate that this has become an acceptable way to list prices. It's not $24 per month, it's $288 per year! "Per month" implies the customer can pay that price every month , and also stop paying on any given month. In other news, Docker Business is going to cost 3.3¢ per user…
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#47Its unfortunate Docker came out of the VC space instead of being a hobby/research project with no intentions of making money. Solomon Hykes could have been the next Linus Torvalds and Docker could have been completely encompassed by a foundation, with the development being funded by a consortium of businesses each keeping each other in check as in the kernel. As it stands Docker seems to have burnt a lot of open sour…
Lxc was in many ways the community originated docker alternative. Sure, you could nitpick about system vs application containers, but ultimately I believe that it was exactly that VC funding that allowed Docker to make the impact it did.
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#48[0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima/
[1] https://www.arthurkoziel.com/replacing-docker-desktop-for-ma...
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#49Colima seems like a pretty nice replacement for Docker Desktop on macOS. [0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima/ [1] https://www.arthurkoziel.com/replacing-docker-desktop-for-ma...
Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it funny that people say things like this, because not only is it demonstrably not true looking at different product segments, but even if it was you're basically admitting to self-selecting as a customer who would never have paid in the first place and so companies are overjoyed that you're not using them. "I would have paid you if you gave me X for free" is the biggest lie.
It is more nuanced like that. If you do not have any other value proposition for paid tiers, you might keep telling yourself that, it is your sales model after all.
Okay, look. There's two universes here. Universe A is where split up the features of our product into tiers based on "value" -- some arbitrary groups based on how useful we think each feature is, how expensive they are, how long they took to develop, estimated person-hours saved, whatever. Sweet, it feels right. Now the free/low cost tiers are genuinely less useful than the higher tiers. Pay more for more. SSO probably still lives at the mid or enterprise tier for no other reason that it's a PITA, is the cause of like 20% of support requests, and our SSO vendor charges us per month per SSO connection.
Universe B is where the free/low cost tiers have every feature except for specifically the features and increased usage limits that get SMBs and Enterprise to pay us.
Both on the sales side and the user side I want to live in Universe B.
There is no magic universe where "just increase your value proposition to Enterprise customers" -- it's the same product just carved up differently and non-enterprise customers lose in Universe A.