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Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by jcl »

mechanical_fish wrote: post #19
mdasen wrote: post #5

I'm a tad frustrated. I love Apple and the Mac OS, but sometimes it really gets to be that the Mac space is a one supplier game. Apple has decided for me that I like glossy screens. I was pretty sure I hated them, but I guess Apple must be right. I also hate real buttons I guess. I'm looking forward to when Apple replaces my keyboard with a pretty glass piece as well. I really need a new laptop (PowerBook is ready to…

Maybe I'm the only one who feels like Apple is getting arrogant with their marketshare. Methinks you have cause and effect backwards. Apple's willingness to simplify their product line is the reason they have a growing marketshare. Apple's been making design decisions like this since Steve Jobs insisted on the one-button mouse. And left the floppy out of the original iMac. And released a notebook without a CD-ROM dri…

You can have any color so long as it's aluminum.

Nice turn of phrase. The irony is that Ford made everything black because it was cheaper. Jobs is making everything aluminum because it acts as a distinguishing factor, so it lets him charge more... I imagine we're only a few years away from hardwood computers.

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by axod »

timr wrote: post #36
timr wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every source I've seen -- including the linked article -- describes it as a "glass multi-touch trackpad". This does not imply that it has tactile feedback, beyond the clicky noises (which aren't tactile). Where did you get your information?

Hey...can we please stop with the moderation flogging? I asked a question in good faith. Why all the down-voting?

"every source I've seen" you said, and you didn't even check the Apple website? What sources were you looking at???

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by axod »

petercooper wrote: post #9
axod wrote: post #7

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Yeah Porsche should drop their prices as well eh. They still cost way more than a ford focus.

Apple is not trying to be a Porsche of the computer industry. Apple is a mass market company with growing marketshare - it's one of the biggest computer manufacturers in the world. Porsche's output is tiny compared to that of Ford. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, especially when it makes no sense.

They are clearly a superior product to the others. If you're after a low cost computer, don't buy Apple. Simple. Just like if you're after a low cost car, you don't buy Porsche.

Just think how often you use your laptop, and how important it is. When you think about it, all laptops are very very cheap considering how much we rely on them these days. So arguing about a couple of hundred dollars spread over maybe 2-3 years, to get you a significantly better laptop for all those years.....

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by gojomo »

timr wrote: post #36
timr wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every source I've seen -- including the linked article -- describes it as a "glass multi-touch trackpad". This does not imply that it has tactile feedback, beyond the clicky noises (which aren't tactile). Where did you get your information?

Hey...can we please stop with the moderation flogging? I asked a question in good faith. Why all the down-voting?

IMHO, original comment (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=332526) should be modded to slightly negative, because it's false, even if it's an honest mistake. (I think you could stop the bleeding by acknowledging the error with an after-edit.)

Followup question about sources is fair, but still seems to advance an erroneous impression based on "every source I've seen". So slight downmodding (perhaps just to zero) doesn't seem clearly abusive to me.

(I've only downmodded the original false comment, while upmodding those providing true information and details.)

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by timr »

axod wrote: post #42
timr wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey...can we please stop with the moderation flogging? I asked a question in good faith. Why all the down-voting?

"every source I've seen" you said, and you didn't even check the Apple website? What sources were you looking at???

I did check the apple site, but hadn't seen the video. The linked article didn't really describe it, nor did any of the half-dozen other articles I've read.

The copy on the apple site is ambiguous -- saying that the trackpad "is the button" could mean a lot of things, including that the trackpad acts as the button (which is how I read it). It isn't an unreasonable interpretation.

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by timr »

gojomo wrote: post #44
timr wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey...can we please stop with the moderation flogging? I asked a question in good faith. Why all the down-voting?

IMHO, original comment ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=332526 ) should be modded to slightly negative, because it's false, even if it's an honest mistake. (I think you could stop the bleeding by acknowledging the error with an after-edit.) Followup question about sources is fair, but still seems to advance an erroneous impression based on "every source I've seen". So slight downmodding (perhaps just to zero) do…

I changed the wording around. Thanks.

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by axod »

timr wrote: post #45
axod wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"every source I've seen" you said, and you didn't even check the Apple website? What sources were you looking at???

I did check the apple site, but hadn't seen the video. The linked article didn't really describe it, nor did any of the half-dozen other articles I've read. The copy on the apple site is ambiguous -- saying that the trackpad "is the button" could mean a lot of things, including that the trackpad acts as the button (which is how I read it). It isn't an unreasonable interpretation.

Sure, but that would be seriously lame.... "The trackpad is the button" meaning 'you can still do tap to click like you have been doing'?

I guess they could make it more obvious that the trackpad is actually physically a button...

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by axod »

sunkencity wrote: post #26
unalone wrote: post #14

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Yeah. You don't get a Macbook just for the aesthetic - though the aesthetic is tremendous. You get it for the operating system.

well, it's a sexy machine to run linux on too, when you are too frustrated with manually compiling tarballs or fighting with the ports system.

Still using desktop software eh? ;)

Re: Apple's all-new MacBook Pro

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Post by jmatt »

For some reason it looks like an old circa 2004 dell laptop to me. It's the black keys with the silverish case. I haven't seen one in person but that is my immediate impression.

I'm a proud owner of a black macbook - which I love. And I think the previous macbook pros look good. Maybe I just need to see one in person, where I can see all the "detail".

That, plus the permanent glossy screen, is a deal breaker. I won't be upgrading anytime soon. Maybe the next revision will give it a new feel or look.

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