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Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by subw00f »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #36
subw00f wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I forgot to add that on this imaginary blind test, the ai images would have to be hand selected to avoid these "transitory" frames where things get blurred and joined.

Seriously??? I'm not talking about "transitory" frames. I'm talking about things like the bottom of the top kitchen cabinets frequently being missing, top beams being at different levels in an impossible "MC Escher"-like configuration. I definitely could see this being useful in plugging in different "styles" to decide what you like, and then taking that to a designer or architect to build out a real design, but anyo…

Now you gave some characteristics to pay attention to, and that's fine, but it's not exactly an "uncanny valley", is it? At least that does not elicit the same effect on me as when I see a CGI of eyes in a super-realistic 3D render of a person. I could totally see myself missing these details and misjudging images like these as human-generated. Maybe I'm just not an attentive person.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by BizarroLand »

naet wrote: post #35
totalview wrote: post #25

I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

This isn't meant to be a literal blueprint maker- it's an idea machine. The advantage of Stable Diffusion is that you can put an actual photo of your real life kitchen in as a seed, and see the ideas applied to your space. It's not the same as browsing through pictures of kitchens on pintrest or houzz, which show entirely different locations of different sizes, different lighting conditions, or different dimensions;…

Yeah, that's what I saw too, a digital mood board with blobs of abstract kitchen-like things that you could theoretically cut and paste the parts you like onto a digital whiteboard.

Once that part was done, then the designer could use those bits and pieces to identify what you like best and cross reference that with what is available and what is possible within your budget and get you the result that you would be happiest with.

With that, the actual designer is still a very important piece of the puzzle and this does very little to replace them.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by arrosenberg »

subw00f wrote: post #37
wil421 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are basically proving OPs point. If a human has to hand curate computer generated images then the computer isn’t taking the place of a designer/general contractor/architect anytime soon.

I never said AI-generated images would take the place of human professionals soon. I asked what exactly "uncanny valley" isms mean.

Uncanny Valley is a term to describe things that look mostly correct, but are "off" in a way that triggers an alarm in most human brains.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by snek_case »

naet wrote: post #35
totalview wrote: post #25

I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

This isn't meant to be a literal blueprint maker- it's an idea machine. The advantage of Stable Diffusion is that you can put an actual photo of your real life kitchen in as a seed, and see the ideas applied to your space. It's not the same as browsing through pictures of kitchens on pintrest or houzz, which show entirely different locations of different sizes, different lighting conditions, or different dimensions;…

The images definitely look good enough to serve as ideas/inspiration IMO. A sketch doesn't need to look photorealistic to inspire you.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by trabant00 »

totalview wrote: post #25

I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

I don't think there's any need to be shy in saying this only looks cool but it's completely useless. The "starting point" for using as ideas already exist - it's the data this has been trained on.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by jansan »

This is really nice, but there are some funny things suggested that might not be too easy to realize:

1. Simply remove the ceiling beams.

2. Extend the room and place another window into the wall.

3. Replace wall with window.

4. Cut room in half and replace one part with garden.

5. Open room to garden and slowly extend ceiling into garden.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by harikb »

albertgt wrote: post #40
labria wrote: post #20

[video]?

hi labria, click on the title of the post to view the youtube video

they are simply saying the title should warn users that it is a video and don't click with your mic unmuted while in a meeting :)

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by ToJans »

I like this idea but I would suggest that you invest some time in some UX validation if you want to maximize the potential usage.

I own a SaaS that offers online 3D configurators for outdoor structures [1] since 2014, and tried something similar as a UX experiment a couple of years back; here is the gist of it:

We offered 20 different variations on the screen at the same time, and people had to gradually fine-tune their preference by clicking on the one they liked the most.

I tested this in the field, and it proved to be very confusing to the end-user, unless you highly constrain the amount of parameters that can change at the same time, and describe to the user what changed and go step by step.

In the end I decided to ditch the whole idea in favor of a hard-coded step-by-step wizard where users can adjust the relevant parameters themselves one by one, which tends to work the best for the majority of the users.

=> My suggestion for you would be to do something similar: highly constrain the potential changes, and guide your user step by step. If you manage to do this, I think you might have gold in your hands.

I would also love to challenge the naysayers who say the generated images don't make sense: in my opinion it will only be a matter of time before someone starts training or hardcoding a classifier that invalidates "wrong" images. (Especially if one would be able to generate a reasonable 3D representation of the image without too much effort.)

As someone once said in a random AI video on the internet: "Dear fellow scholars, I wonder what we will be capable of just 2 more papers down the line"

[1] ** edit ** removed the URL, check my profile if you really want to know...

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by albertgt »

harikb wrote: post #47
albertgt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hi labria, click on the title of the post to view the youtube video

they are simply saying the title should warn users that it is a video and don't click with your mic unmuted while in a meeting :)

oops my bad!

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by mgraczyk »

totalview wrote: post #25

I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

This is not going to replace architects or designers in the near term, but it could still transform the industry.

The conversion pipeline for things like this today relies on ads, word of mouth, and expensive sales processes. Imagine a homeowner uploading a photo of their kitchen and being shown hundreds of possible redesign styles. The homeowner can choose one to start a conversation with a designer. That pipeline will convert way more people than the status quo, and the industry as a whole will grow.

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