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Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

Perhaps. But these things are not signs of that since the American government has hated the Iranian government for a long time.

It would be much more suspicious if the US govt. started to support the Iranian govt. all of a sudden.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Apart from the usual "this is something important that is happening" (which is not quite HN "intellectual curiosity" territory, what is striking is the use of what I assume is a V for Vendetta mask - with Red and Green daubing. How culture spreads is ... fascinating.

The genesis may have been “V for Vendetta” but I believe Anonymous used a similar mask and it’s possible the hacker/s are aware of that.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…

> Even if there is an interest to empower the people to oust the regime, wouldn't it be fomenting on already existing unhappiness?

Out of all the nations on Earth, perhaps a majority of them have some kind of discontent among the population. Then, with this blank cheque being given, the nations with the most powerful intel agencies can empower the ones they want into full-blown protests.

The conspiracy theory that Russia influenced the two recent American presidential elections naturally come to mind. If that was the case—and I don’t doubt that they might have invested a small pittance into FB ads—then they were surely just building on existing unhappiness, as Trump supporters are too numerous to all be sleeper agents of the waning super power that is Russia.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…

> This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region

That is a very simplistic, and correct view of how the US manipulates such tensions.

There are many of us international HNers, whose countries suffered multiple US backed coups or color revolutions, and even worse, whose grassroots popular movements were co-opted and subverted by the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union...

So much that even the 'people's movement', Solidarity in Poland, that was the 'trade union' movement that overthrow their government, was CIA funded and organized. The same thing has been a staple of daily life in Middle East since 1960s, when CIA decided to fund and use Islamist groups.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

The basic deal between the US and SA is, in exchange for supplying the global oil market, the US will overlook SA's dictatorship, human rights abuses, and involvement in 9/11, and will supply them with weapons. If SA stops upholding its side of the deal, I would expect the Arab Spring would suddenly find its way to SA. Or, perhaps first, the US would support a coup against MBS to replace him with a more compliant member of the House of Said.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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I stopped when you said "sinophobes". It is classic CCP counter-intel to describe all of it's enemies as racist. Why are you here on a thread about Iran anyways?

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Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Don't know about CIA conspiracies but I'm sure Saudi Arabians will protest Hijab mandates one day. Freedom is amazing and every human craves it at some level.

Freedom is amazing , true. But I am afraid you could be over optimistic saying that everyone craves it. Unfortunately many people have short-term goals that are more important for them than freedom…

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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> They didn't, which mean they are fine having ethnic groups This is a gigantic leap to a conclusion that does not logically follow the premise, and ignores evidence that requires no such leaps. I guess it was the inevitable that the Chinese propaganda machine would make its way to HN.

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Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…

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