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Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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At this point the best thing to do is to have the Tesla Robot drive a model 3 around town, picking up passengers a la Total Recall taxi driver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy2i1U5pS4E

I think this was the original vision behind teslabot. FSD is too hard, lets focus on AGI instead

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

#42
If this thing can clean the kitchen, load/unload the dishes, and do laundry it will be huge. That seems realistic based on the demo.

I imagine it will need an impressive amount of safety features.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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The Tesla Robot was underwhelming. I appreciate the engineers on stage highlighting their work, but it all felt a generation behind Boston Dynamic’s efforts.

BD took ages to be were they are right now. I actually think Tesla showed more than I expected. At least we now start the rat race for robots.

That rat race started like 30 (40?) years ago in Japan.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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In reality its going to be 10+ years and it'll be more than 20k. Thats assuming they actually release it, they seem to be collecting a pretty large list of vaporware right now. Cybertruck and Semi for example which seem to be stuck in development hell. They seem to have a real issue actually shipping. Partly because Elon is incapable of understanding realistic timeframes.

Unrealistic timeframes also has the benefit of getting the most out of people. But Elon is getting quite a bit of flak for the expectations it sets. It sure will be interesting to see where FSD & Teslabot is in a couple of years. The pace of innovation is extremely high at Tesla and should make you wonder what Boston Dynamics, Waymo and others have been up to for all these years.

Making things that actually work outside of imaginationland?

How can you look at what they showed yesterday after the rest of the world has made things 109x more capable and conclude that they are innovators in the space?

Even the rando Chinese companies have done a better job cloning spot mini than this.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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The Tesla Robot was underwhelming. I appreciate the engineers on stage highlighting their work, but it all felt a generation behind Boston Dynamic’s efforts.

It was underwhelming, but it's to be expected for 1 year of work. This is also an electric motor robot vs pneumatic actuators from BD.

Choosing the wrong technology and failing to make it work is not an accomplishment.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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A useful robot with initial purpose that takes job away, now, primarily from black and brown people. To be clear this is a tech product that increases profitability for a company.

Are ethics discussed in the presentation?

Social equity?

Watching now ... it's 3hrs .. looking for ethics consideration.

.. ok he simplifies what an Economy is, to the theoretical. Can an economy be one which frees marginalized people from poverty? I'm skeptical and hope Tesla has an Economist, on stage, shortly. Musk is claiming good intention, explicitly.

Q: So, who does this? Who is planning future economies where marginalized groups are even further marginalized?

Edit: down voting is perplexing, it's a reasonable topic for discussion given the significance of this tech neutralizing Labor.

Edit 2: we should have qualms about technology that disrupts sensitive populations. I have no qualms about introduction of things like Docker which disrupted the people who wrote lots of crazy scripts to help deployment of crazy configurations to process data on collections of servers. The key is the marginalized community, who is not in a position to be able to pivot because they are marginalized.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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Because Elon is snakes oil salesman, who thinks he’s smartest and most important human in the history. He also happens to have some very successful products, that his fan base uses to silence any criticism.

If snake-oil salesmanship is all it takes to land rockets vertically and single-handily kickstart the transition to EVs I'm all for it. We need more snake-oil salesmen leading corporate America!

Exactly. He lands rockets so he cannot lie? Is that a new law of universe?

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

#48
I think the problem is not in the robot hardware but in the software, same as with self driving cars.

What would help the development would be a "standard" hardware platform one can just buy and add own code.

Re: Tesla AI Day 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was underwhelming, but it's to be expected for 1 year of work. This is also an electric motor robot vs pneumatic actuators from BD.

Choosing the wrong technology and failing to make it work is not an accomplishment.

hold my gigapress
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