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Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by aliqot » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #25

renlo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That person said, paraphrased, that if a drunk woman cheats then the woman gets blamed for infidelity (implying it’s somehow someone else’s fault, maybe her partner or the person she hooks up with?). Yes, if you cheat, you are a cheater. Guess I’m too old to follow her reasoning beyond that.

She did phrase that poorly, but starts with "you get a harsher punishment for poor decisions" , I assume she means in comparison to men.

Interesting. I've always heard a specific colloquial term for the metaphorical "pass" women have, but have never heard the same term or concept for men. It also does not match my experience as a man; look at incarcerations, women have on average shorter sentences for the same crimes.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by ipaddr » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

GekkePrutser wrote: post #11

> Becoming more intentional about one’s relationship with alcohol can only ever be a good thing. “It’s a myth really that you are boring if you’re not drinking,” Misell says. “As anyone who’s ever been sober with a drunk friend will know that when people are drunk, that can be extremely boring too.” Well, yes. I've been working in a bar (and in charge of it) and drunk people are really annoying. I always used to drin…

You can only drink so many pops/sodas two or three before you hit a sugar limit. With beer you could easily hit higher limits.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by alexfromapex » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

I just stopped drinking because life is getting difficult and stressful with rife disease, high costs for everything, and a crashing economy that I need to be at my best. That’s probably one of the drivers of the trend.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by andai » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

yuan43 wrote: post #26

The bigger question is why isn't sobriety viewed as the default position rather than the exception? I mean, nobody would ask why young people are saying "no" to crack cocaine.

There was news recently of the Japanese Government heavily promoting drinking to young people, because their alcohol industry is suffering.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by zkirill » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

I suspect that most young people in the developed world are introduced to alcohol by megacorps who just want to sell you as much fun as you can walk away from. That is quite different from being introduced to alcohol at an early age as something that is an intricate part of your culture and diet. Personally, I find fermentation fascinating and a walk through human history: kefir, kvass, berries, barley...

On a personal note, I find that most of the commercially produced wine and beer is of extremely poor quality. A few months ago I was researching a "high end" winery, searched for their land on satellite, and discovered that they were growing their grapes next door to a massive junk yard. Fortunately, the organic/bio movement for alcohol is slowly growing and I find the quality to be much higher.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by GekkePrutser » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #19

GekkePrutser wrote: post #11

> Becoming more intentional about one’s relationship with alcohol can only ever be a good thing. “It’s a myth really that you are boring if you’re not drinking,” Misell says. “As anyone who’s ever been sober with a drunk friend will know that when people are drunk, that can be extremely boring too.” Well, yes. I've been working in a bar (and in charge of it) and drunk people are really annoying. I always used to drin…

I always hated alcohol consumption and what it did to me if I abused it. But I'm really starting to see the benefits of alcohol sometimes. I have issues with anxiety and depression. I have seen a psychiatrist and all the medication he ever prescribed to me had side effects worse than my actual condition. The only thing I noticed that could take the edge off without any major side effects were a couple of pints of bee…

I also have had depression and it's very important to note that Alcohol while temporarily lifting it, will cause an even worse depression the next day. At least it does for me, like clockwork.

I've always coped with this by realising that it is purely chemical and ignoring it because it goes away by the next evening, but sometimes it was tough.

Still, it helped me fix the 'root cause' of being depressed which was being too shy to really connect with people and being lonely as a result. I still view it as a tool.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by dc-programmer » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

I like drinking but most of the time the two day anxiety rebound is not worth it. So I only drink at special events where I know it’ll be worth it

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by k__ » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

GekkePrutser wrote: post #11

> Becoming more intentional about one’s relationship with alcohol can only ever be a good thing. “It’s a myth really that you are boring if you’re not drinking,” Misell says. “As anyone who’s ever been sober with a drunk friend will know that when people are drunk, that can be extremely boring too.” Well, yes. I've been working in a bar (and in charge of it) and drunk people are really annoying. I always used to drin…

Drinking limits? Never heard of those!

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by andai » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

ricardobayes wrote: post #33

I found out alcohol makes my pollen allergies go overdrive. Ever since I stopped drinking alcohol, my symptoms basically went away. This is because alcohol - along with some other foods - have histamine in them.

Interesting, I noticed swelling and pain in my joints during and after consumption of alcohol.

Re: Reasons young people are choosing sobriety

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Post by MichaelCollins » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

peregrine wrote: post #40

Once you stop drinking the hangovers get worse and worse. The pandemic removed the pressure to drink (for some) and now it’s really hard to lose an entire day to feeling like garbage in exchange for a couple hours of partying. I still drink one or two socially but anymore and my next day is a mess.

Agreed, it's got to be the hangovers. Being drunk is fun enough, but not if it means your next 1-2 days is ruined. People were shown another way by the shutdown of bars, combined with the proliferation of cannabis as a (mostly) hangover-free alternative.