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Kendo UI is out of beta

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Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#42

Please don't consider using this at least until they make their own demo accessible to non mouse users (I raised the same complaint the last time this was posted, no change).

Honestly, I wouldn't hold your breath. You're probably so far on the fringe that it's not worth their time to fix it for you. They're demo works fine on my phone (Opera Mobile browser), the only mouseless interface I use. I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.

The only one i tested, combo box, failed on Android.

When you click the arrow, keyboard goes up and hide the options. If you scroll or press back to move keyboard, options are gone

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#45
Can someone explain me what is considered 'open-source' in a web application?

For instance, say I have a sushi website where people can order. The web site (html+css+javascript) is obviously public but the backend is private. (Database containing credit card + django code for instance).

If I use this library on my website (I.e. including the javascript on the client side), should I have to pay 400$?

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#46

Please don't consider using this at least until they make their own demo accessible to non mouse users (I raised the same complaint the last time this was posted, no change).

Honestly, I wouldn't hold your breath. You're probably so far on the fringe that it's not worth their time to fix it for you. They're demo works fine on my phone (Opera Mobile browser), the only mouseless interface I use. I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.

Well, the goal of using an already-made UI library is to not have to think about these issues. I.e. if you're paying a couple hundred dollars for a library, you assume it has been well tested. (And, if keyboard shortcuts don't work, it's obvious that it wasn't tested enough.)

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#47

Please don't consider using this at least until they make their own demo accessible to non mouse users (I raised the same complaint the last time this was posted, no change).

Honestly, I wouldn't hold your breath. You're probably so far on the fringe that it's not worth their time to fix it for you. They're demo works fine on my phone (Opera Mobile browser), the only mouseless interface I use. I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.

Combo boxes don't work at all on the iPad (or, presumably, iPhone). Long ones such as in the welcome demo page select items instead of scrolling on drag. Short ones on the combo box page close as soon as they open.

The landing page made a big deal out of supporting touch devices and being a HTML5 app framework; I wouldn't build anything on a framework whose own demos don't work on the most popular touch devices in the world.

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#48
post #44

What you did wrong with this site is that you need to CLEARLY describe on the first page what your product does. http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ is a good example of how to do this right

Well, we have all that on http://www.kendoui.com/, but unfortunately we didn't post this news piece.

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#49
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is way slicker than what you could build using jquery-ui and available plugins unless you are rockstar with the js and have an excellent design person. For instance, the best time-picker plugin I've been able to find for jquery-ui is nice but isn't perfectly cross-browser and not as pretty: http://labs.perifer.se/timedatepicker/ Now look at the Kendo time picker. Design and usability are crucial to a successful…

What about this one? http://trentrichardson.com/examples/timepicker/ It extends the standard jQuery UI datepicker but you can turn off the date picker part leaving the time picker.

I've recently explored a lot of these different time widgets.

I didn't like that one because dragging a slider for the time seemed like a lot of work.

I'd rather click, so I ended up with this one that is based on jquery ui as well: http://fgelinas.com/code/timepicker/

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

#50

As someone who does JavaScript and HTML5 UIs for a living, I'm interested to understand more about the market of customers who pay for UI components or libraries. Can anyone comment point me to an successful MVP in this area or tell me about customers who buy this stuff?

Fortune 500 and mid-market companies are the target market. I've consulted at several in the Chicago area that strongly prefer to work with a vendor who can provide long-term support and training. No MVPs to offer, but Sencha and Highcharts are making a living licensing their Javascript libraries. If you're interested in this market, I'd recommend libraries for building complex infographics. Something beyond the stan…

Any examples? Doesn't have to be HTML.
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