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Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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I wonder how this will work with slack orgs with short data retention policies. It wouldn't make sense to delete parts of a Canvas, as "Canvas docs are collaborative, and all their comments are just Slack threads." (from https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/20/23361717/slack-canvas-doc... )

Bear in mind that at this time, and for many years, data retention policies simply do not apply to uploaded files in a given channel (IIRC it does apply to global retention, but I'm not totally sure of the current behavior). There's a sensitive channel with a short retention period in a Slack for a company I do some consulting for and every few months I remind the admins that images/PDFs/etc that are uploaded to the…

It sounds like there’s no file retention policy specified for that Slack workspace. It’s possible to set a policy specifically for files.

https://slack.com/help/articles/203457187-Customize-message-...

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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Probably ten years ago Google chat added a slightly secret feature that let you send a quick doodle directly in the app. They never really publicized it and then they decided to run in circles with their communication tools until everyone gave up.

I still kinda miss Wave. Though I suspect in reality it was never as great as my memory makes it out to have been...

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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It’s crazy to see all these new efforts to store and share data, and none of them come even close to being as useful as files.

The only data container that has shown any improvement over files so far has been Google docs. With the caveat that I’m not well versed in this area, I don’t understand why a file couldn’t achieve the same. If there are locking issues, etc. wouldn’t something like a SQLite DB, which can also be contained in a file, help alleviate those?

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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It is great! I work at Slack, where we've been testing that functionality for a while, and I use it for one-on-ones with remote colleagues. Huddles become like Zoom calls, but with much more context.

Is there any love for discord style "drop-in" voice channels? I'm never going to start a huddle in a channel of 30 people and say "its optional" -- but with a voice channel, people can see we are idling / chatting nonsense and join as needed.

So create a channel called #drop-in and start a huddle?

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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I've used Quip at work for years, and it consistently has issues with losing changes during concurrent editing, attributing who made a change, and its search and organization are quite bad. Integrating Quip into Slack gives me one more reason not to put important things in Slack.

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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But also "what is documentation?" You can have great customer-facing-product-docs and keep them up to date. You can have an internal process wiki that is mostely up to date. But what about the conversation over lunch/slack to change a product feature, that then becomes a story card, that gets mockup, that gets notes in the pr and comments in the code, that get ad-hoc slack conversations clarifying details. How many m…

Long ago Mozilla started making all such decisions on mailing lists, because the meetings at water coolers never get documented, and because you can't meet a colleague who lives 10,000 miles away over a water cooler (or at least not very often).

Interestingly enough, fully-remote companies have an advantage here - such "water-cooler" discussions and decisions still happen, but more commonly over Slack and email than in person (and even in-person discussions can be recorded, although few people think of that in advance).

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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Is there any love for discord style "drop-in" voice channels? I'm never going to start a huddle in a channel of 30 people and say "its optional" -- but with a voice channel, people can see we are idling / chatting nonsense and join as needed.

Isn't that what Huddles already are? There's an indicator next to the channel name showing whether people are talking or not. You can choose to drop in if you want.

It sends a notification to everyone announcing they are invited - I want it to be like a water-cooler drop-in chat location, I'm the boss - if I press "huddle" I get 30 people join because Slack tells them "boss started a huddle"

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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Yet another 'digital container' of disparate information to house your data and make it difficult for someone find it across an organisation. As someone who was working in a scale up I found that we had information spread across coda, wiki, markdown, tickets, collaborative whiteboards (Miro), git issues, google docs, coda, (insert random lastest cool SaaS that someone stumbled across one night and used the company ca…

> It just seems like it's not the tool itself, it's more there are actually too many options out there And that's exactly why every company is building their own version of such a tool. They all want to be the "one place" where all information is stored.

Don’t make me tap the sign*

*the sign: https://m.xkcd.com/927/

Re: Slack’s brand-new feature has an unexpectedly rich backstory

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Huddle needs much love. It is not a first class citizen. Not even full API support for it :(

what else does it need?

API, I want to get rid of zoom as much as possible.

The lowest hanging fruit is being able to use huddle in calendar invites for daily standup. I can't even use Huddles apart of the basic workflows Slack offers.

Once you have that you'll have habit forming behavior with your user and they'll reach for Slack huddle before zoom.

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