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Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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I was almost impressed by the equally prominent "Reject" cookies button until I realised that when you press it, it refuses access. Ironic for an article about how to be a security paranoiac. Edit: Especially as it recommends an online booking and doing so without regard to cookies and other trackers is probably leaking far more personal information to people who actually could use that information than saying your n…

And illegal (in EU) anyways, as you cannot deny the service when people refuse to accept the tracking cookies..

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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The most interesting advice here is to leave the TV on with a do-not-disturb sign. I think people will be less likely to rob you that way. All the other advice is kind of whatever, like not being on the top floor in case someone is sweeping for you floor-by-floor.

The problem is that in a lot of hotels the power of the whole room shuts down the moment you remove the key card from its slot. I guess you would need to ask for a second key card.

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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I was robbed at gunpoint at a hotel once and in the aftermath have my own tactical "lessons learned" on the topic of hotel safety tips... which I am happy to share with you fellow HN travelers:

* Don't check into (cheap) hotels at 2am, criminals prowl at night looking for easy targets.

* If you do, be on extra alert for idling or lurking cars with headlights on at hotels in early morning hours, it is indeed a greater threat indicator than in daylight hours

* Minimize your movement outside your room when it's dark. It's not necessarily a boost in your security profile to go back out to your car to bring in your forgotten laptop from the trunk back into your room

* If someone does have you at gunpoint and wants your money, do what your mother said and just give it to them, you can always make more money later. No regrets.

* When a criminal takes your wallet, appeal to a shared fear of cops by asking for your driver's license back, you may still lose your cash but get your ID and credit cards back if they don't have a clear plan/motive to fence them... huge hassle savings (hat tip to the divine inspiration that brought this to my lips in that moment, it worked)

* If you do lose all your credit/debit cards (+cell phone), one benefit of reporting your situation to the cops immediately is that when they come and take your statement and open a case (however unlikely it will be solved), they may give you a card documenting and showing your case #. That card can come in as handy evidence backing up your "sob story" in conversations the next day with strangers you meet if you now find yourself in a strange city with no resources and no friends looking to get a free meal or other assistance (while promising to pay the stranger back of course). Conversely, a stranger telling you a sob story of them being robbed can be asked to produce such evidence.

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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post #39

[1,000 lumen flashlight] ...they are incredibly effective at temporarily blinding a would-be attacker, giving you a chance to escape. Is this dude for real?

Tactical flashlight. They're strong enough to give you second degree burns if you hold it against your flesh.

They typically have low, high, and strobe modes for disorienting targets.

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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post #32

I would have liked to see the good options when not using the hotel safe.

Your own bag, locked with a good lock. The threat model is convert entry; someone who's willing to carry your bag away can probably open the safe anyway so you're not losing in real security.

Thanks! I'll stick to my selfmade little box. Its easy to open if you know how, but if you don't you get a severe electric burn, that will at minimum make you scream loudly.

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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Kind of cool to read but these are not any tips that a normal (non-paranoid) person will need to follow unless they are traveling to some seriously dangerous locations. Except maybe the tip not to use the hotel safe or leave money under the mattress, those are good. But do normal people really need to write their name down on pieces of paper and pass them across the desk with a wink to avoid their name being said out…

He doesn’t mention where you should keep your valuables. It’s easy to say where not to, but then offer a suggestion for a safe place to store stuff like a passport or cash.

An appropriately sized pacsafe is what I use.

https://pacsafe.co.uk/collections/portable-safes-bag-protect...

Even something as simple as having a bag that locks and putting your valuables in it and locking it would probably deal with 90% of issues.

If you're an average person travelling the risk you face is from the hotel house keeping staff and there's really two types of theft there. First is opportunistic where the staff can look inside your luggage and find small potentially valuable things they can steal but which won't be immediately obvious and you might think you've just misplaced in your luggage somewhere. These people don't want the police called in, they want to keep their jobs, so they'll generally steal in a manner that makes it difficult for you to know if it was really stolen or if it was just misplaced.

The second is, a member of staff is finishing or planning on leaving and they'll go to greater lengths to more obviously steal any available stuff before leaving for good. This is a bit more common in countries that use a lot of seasonal migrant labour and the staff are going home on holiday and want a final payday by hitting multiple rooms before they go.

But the second scenario is much rarer than the first. Honestly most theft from hotel rooms is just opportunistic and a simple locked bag that's tethered to something immovable will solve it. I use a pacsafe for peace of mind, there's really nothing beyond it you can reasonably do that increases the security of valuables in a room.

Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

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I was almost impressed by the equally prominent "Reject" cookies button until I realised that when you press it, it refuses access. Ironic for an article about how to be a security paranoiac. Edit: Especially as it recommends an online booking and doing so without regard to cookies and other trackers is probably leaking far more personal information to people who actually could use that information than saying your n…

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Re: Hotel safety tips from a former intelligence officer

#50

The most interesting advice here is to leave the TV on with a do-not-disturb sign. I think people will be less likely to rob you that way. All the other advice is kind of whatever, like not being on the top floor in case someone is sweeping for you floor-by-floor.

The problem is that in a lot of hotels the power of the whole room shuts down the moment you remove the key card from its slot. I guess you would need to ask for a second key card.

I've only ever found those to be simple physical switches. I use a spare credit-card sized object from my wallet, e.g. a loyalty card or an enomatic charge card (I have a half dozen of these), but even a stiff business card will do if it's the right size.

With far less attention to security, I do this to e.g. charge up devices while I go get a bite to eat before heading out again in the evening.

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