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Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by was_a_dev »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #6

"Even if the baby is asleep, they notice when they have been separated from their caregiver" It seems they're born with proximity sensor. They'll start crying again once you're moving a feet away. "most effective way to put a baby to sleep was to carry them and walk around for five minutes, sit and wait for five to eight minutes, then put them to bed" This advice doesn't mention crying, does it mean we have to make i…

> proximity sensor

Is this just the absense of your body heat? Or can you sit next to a newborn for hours without issue

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by was_a_dev »

surge wrote: post #33

This is already known data, you simulate the conditions of the womb and a baby in the 4th trimester (we're born early because of our big heads), will sleep easily. So swaddling, swaying and shhhing all simulate being in the womb where you hear white noise, are tightly confined and gently rocked or swayed by the mother's natural movement as she walks around, etc. I read about it with my own children and it worked, and…

At the extreme, do you think generating whitenoise from a phone would have the same effect?

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by Moru »

skc wrote: post #31

So I'm from Zambia and like in most black African cultures we carry our babies in swaddles across the back of the caregiver (like a backpack). [1] I'm not exaggerating when I say that right this minute I can't think of a single occasion where I've ever seen a baby crying while being carried like this and most are fast asleep while the caregiver goes about their business. [1] https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content…

When we had our kid we also carried her everywhere, it has been pretty popular in Sweden for a while. It helps a lot with being close but still the cause of the crying has to be investigated. After a long period of no proper sleep we finally figured out what the problem was. Baby was allergic to milk protein and was crying because of the pain it caused. Due to bad knowledge and advice we only tried ruling out milk allergy for a week but it takes many weeks for the milk protein to leave the mothers system. When we got baby formula without milk protein our baby could sleep without pain and the dry skin spots went away. I'm wondering if most problems with crying babies are from undiagnosed milk protein allergy. It usually disappears during the first seven years.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by SeanLuke »

I have identical twin sons. When they were newborns, to quiet them down I would carry one around the Trader Joe's directly across the street from our house, walking up and down the aisles (it was cold outside). Then I'd come back to do the same with the other one. It worked like a charm. The employees knew me well.

It wasn't until a few months later that we showed up at Trader Joe's with both of them in a stroller. Some employees later confessed that they didn't believe I had two kids until then.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by ekianjo »

> The team tested 21 pairs of babies aged 7 months or younger and their mothers. The subjects were drawn from a range of nationalities and races, including those from Japan and Italy.

Very little sample size and lack of control? I'm afraid this is another bad study.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by egman_ekki »

was_a_dev wrote: post #42
surge wrote: post #33

This is already known data, you simulate the conditions of the womb and a baby in the 4th trimester (we're born early because of our big heads), will sleep easily. So swaddling, swaying and shhhing all simulate being in the womb where you hear white noise, are tightly confined and gently rocked or swayed by the mother's natural movement as she walks around, etc. I read about it with my own children and it worked, and…

At the extreme, do you think generating whitenoise from a phone would have the same effect?

It's no extreme. It does work and there are also toys that generate white noise to help babies sleep. Also a lot of Spotify playlists dedicated to this.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by throwaway847363 »

thinkindie wrote: post #34

"In the experiment, when their babies cried loudly, moms randomly combined four actions -- carrying them on a walk, sitting while holding them, putting them to bed, and rocking them in a stroller -- about every 30 seconds." it's 2022 and they are still doing research with just moms as caregivers?

Oh god, stop. Can you just read about this research without making judgements about social justice please?!

Look around you, do you see a lot of moms with babies?

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by jaclaz »

surge wrote: post #33

This is already known data, you simulate the conditions of the womb and a baby in the 4th trimester (we're born early because of our big heads), will sleep easily. So swaddling, swaying and shhhing all simulate being in the womb where you hear white noise, are tightly confined and gently rocked or swayed by the mother's natural movement as she walks around, etc. I read about it with my own children and it worked, and…

Very tangentially related, an old trick that often works with small (dog) puppies crying at night when separated from their mother is to put them into their basket together with a (warm) hot water bottle and a mechanical alarm clock (those old ones that tick very loud) wrapped in a blanket.

In that case it is the combination of (fake) body warmth + (fake) heartbeat that makes them sleep, since we are mammals/animals too, the mechanism for babies is likely similar.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by stevedzreams »

Markoff wrote: post #19

Meanigless study with only 21 babies, extremely small sample size to make some general statements. > Results showed that the most effective way to put a baby to sleep was to carry them and walk around for five minutes, sit and wait for five to eight minutes, then put them to bed. Also this is nice theory, we all know of course if you hold baby (and eventually walk) the baby can fall asleep, the problem is to put the…

atleast read the link before commenting nonsense.

Re: Team led by Japanese researchers reveals best way to put crying baby to sleep

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Post by domh »

mattlondon wrote: post #28
jmathai wrote: post #26

We found swaddles with velcro to be really helpful for our kids to fall and stay asleep. We tried a few but the SwaddleMe's [1] worked the best. The baby would manage to work their arm out of the others we tried...and once their arm is out it is game over...their startle reflex wakes them up. Once they outgrow the swaddle, the Merlin Magic Sleepsuits [2] were amazing. Bonus...you can't stop laughing at how silly they…

+1 to some sort of "engineered swaddle" that restrains the arms effectively. We found "traditional" swaddles to be unreliable - once the arm/arms were out then it is only a matter of time before they hit themselves in the face with their arms, but swaddles with specific features to prevent the escape of the arms to work really well. We used one called Miracle Swaddle for both our kids. Just make sure you stop using s…

Also +1 to the Velcro swaddle. Swaddling with a regular piece of fabric is something I mastered in the hospital and then swiftly forgot as soon as we got home. The Velcro swaddle was a game changer.

We transitioned to sleeping bags with arms out as soon as our baby could roll over, and he's still using those now at 14 months.

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