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FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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post #14

Knowing the beast firsthand, there's no trace of doubt in my mind that the convergence to a junk product outcome involved a monotonous increase in ad revenue and likely, engagement metrics. There's a tragic dimension that a system which connected so much of humanity to itself so well would be rendered so toxic as a product and as a community in just a few years.

Ordinary people put up with a lot of inconvenience just to stay connected (in some way). This is why fb has not collapsed yet. I left it years ago when I realized it was just annoying me.

It hasn't collapsed because everyone with a half-baked idea feels they need to purchase ads to syndicate across Facebook or Instagram

and some of the fully baked ideas with a budget do it too

its the crux of most modern online marketing strategies, its always an overhead cost, recurring

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

#43

The current FB is great for productivity! No need to mourn the former FB. It's gone. I've given up on FB as a social network a long time ago. I unfollowed all my friends and started following things that interest me. Followed the astronomical society so I can be informed when they have a public night. I get ads for everything I need for renovating my house: roof sealing services, AC repair, contractors, new windows,…

>The current FB is great for productivity!

Good guy Zucc.

Is the platform salvageable at this point? Probably easier to acquire a new social media platform than steer the old behemoth.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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There might be some other people out there like me with school age kids. I find that my kids schools and the various PAC (parents advisory committee) groups all use Facebook to communicate. So I have to be on there if want info and to be connected with other parents. I hate Facebook but for this purpose it is actually quite useful. Similarly, I am in a neighbourhood group and there is a certain amount of nimby/busybody type posts but it can also be great for knowing what is going on in the neighbourhood. The main page feed is all junk posts/ads but if I stick to these group pages it's useful.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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post #23

I suspect part of it is that Real People are posting less. Since the feed doesn't have a bottom anymore it makes up the difference with sponsored and suggested junk rather than going empty.

When they changed things to make it so businesses had to pay for "sponsored posts" to get their followers to see them, you could see the writing on the wall.

If normal people's posts get seen by their friends and followers, what would a business be paying for? And so it starts a loop that ends in nothing but AI generated content for doomscrollers.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

#46

I almost never log in to Facebook anymore, but the feed was hilariously bad the last time I checked it out. Almost entirely ads for random crap, eyecandy videos, exotic Asian street food videos, etc. Nothing even remotely related to my interests. At least Facebook seems to have figured out that I'm not a Star Wars fan. For years, their algorithm somehow decided that I liked Star Wars and that I wanted my feed to be f…

What do you mean you don't like Star Wars, everyone likes Star Wars, May the Forth and lol anjklsdnajkdsnfkasfasd

Star Wars!!!! i'm so unique

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

#47
post #23

I suspect part of it is that Real People are posting less. Since the feed doesn't have a bottom anymore it makes up the difference with sponsored and suggested junk rather than going empty.

Yup, it's in a death spiral. As each feed gets less real content, that person disengaged and posts less. So their friends' feeds get less real content.

I still log into Facebook pretty often, but most of my posts are no longer actually shared with friends, so I hardly ever make them anymore. What's the point of posting something almost no one will see?

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

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post #23

I suspect part of it is that Real People are posting less. Since the feed doesn't have a bottom anymore it makes up the difference with sponsored and suggested junk rather than going empty.

I gave up visiting Facebook a long time ago, so can't speak to whatever current algorithm, but even a few years ago, my feed was already flooded with outside content while only presenting a small fraction of my friends' content.

If I wanted to see most of the friend-content I had "subscribed" to, I had to do a manual tour of their profiles.

I'm sure people do post even less now, but I'm skeptical that's the root cause of what's being reported. The explicit bias towards political/commercial/promoted/engagementbait content over "subscribed" content has been there for years.

Re: FB feed is 98% suggested pages and barely any friends' posts

#50

Yes it’s a negative feedback loop created by the very bad product decisions they made to optimize for local maxima of getting more ads revenue. You inject more and more ads followed by more and more suggested content, thereby reducing the in network content. The in network content doesn’t get as much of traction, therefore people stop posting. This in turn forces the feed to have more and more suggestions and a few s…

Sounds a lot like Google Search results. It’s almost as if advertising dollars are an addictive drug that ultimately kills the company.
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