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Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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pantaloons wrote: post #40
blahedo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

It creates an incentive for DDG to favor Amazon, or other affiliate pages in their rankings. A search engine where you pay for Ad placement is very different to a search engine where you (effectively) pay for rankings.

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Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by 110101001010100 »

yters wrote: post #32
110101001010100 wrote: post #29

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From the genius who brought us what Google adapted as AdSense. I applaud this effort. I'm no Spike Lee, but in my opinion this is doing the right thing. Let people compete over what to do with the raw data (data which is of course publicly accessible but subject to the strange inequities of crawling), how best to process and present it, not over access to it. DDG has to pay Yahoo! for a BOSS license. That is just str…

Yeah, why do I have to pay for things like a car and what not? They all come from publicly accessible goods. Bunch of scammers.

Maybe the question is not why you have to pay for your car, but why you _do not_ have to pay to view information via a website, store a copy of this in RAM and/or save a copy using secondary storage. Why is it typically "free" for you to do that?

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by nextparadigms »

maximusprime wrote: post #27
lordlarm wrote: post #16

DuckDuckGo was also added to the Opera Browser, approx. 1 month ago. [1] Anyone know how DuckDuckGo do monetization? [1]: http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/10/19/the-hidden-featur...

afaik they rewrite any amazon and ebay results to link with their own affiliate ID :/

As an Amazon referrer, doesn't it mean they have to track you, too, until you make the sale? I thought they said there's no tracking whatsoever.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by asto »

pantaloons wrote: post #40
blahedo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

It creates an incentive for DDG to favor Amazon, or other affiliate pages in their rankings. A search engine where you pay for Ad placement is very different to a search engine where you (effectively) pay for rankings.

They just use yahoo/bing/google results and redo the links where they're an affiliate. Which means the search rankings are decided by a third party who has no hand in the affiliate pot.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by darasen »

pantaloons wrote: post #40
blahedo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the :/ ? DDG isn't taking away anyone _else's_ affiliation, right? This isn't really any different than leaving the referer-id in there, except that it shoehorns "referer" into the "affiliate" api that Amazon et al are geared to pay money for. (Right?)

It creates an incentive for DDG to favor Amazon, or other affiliate pages in their rankings. A search engine where you pay for Ad placement is very different to a search engine where you (effectively) pay for rankings.

That's right because no one pays for their google ranking. oh wait...

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by robrenaud »

darasen wrote: post #45
pantaloons wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It creates an incentive for DDG to favor Amazon, or other affiliate pages in their rankings. A search engine where you pay for Ad placement is very different to a search engine where you (effectively) pay for rankings.

That's right because no one pays for their google ranking. oh wait...

Who pays for their Google ranking? People might pay SEO companies to help them rank better, but I am skeptical that they are paying Google for it.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by tesseract »

nextparadigms wrote: post #43
maximusprime wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

afaik they rewrite any amazon and ebay results to link with their own affiliate ID :/

As an Amazon referrer, doesn't it mean they have to track you, too, until you make the sale? I thought they said there's no tracking whatsoever.

Amazon is tracking you regardless of whether you clicked on a referrer link.

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by white_devil »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #31
lordlarm wrote: post #16

DuckDuckGo was also added to the Opera Browser, approx. 1 month ago. [1] Anyone know how DuckDuckGo do monetization? [1]: http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/10/19/the-hidden-featur...

http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216405-a...

Now that you've taken on investment, won't the investors want to force you to maximize profits (possibly at the expense of your users' privacy)?

Re: Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo

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Post by rplnt »

w1ntermute wrote: post #35
Jd wrote: post #30

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My impression is that Google also always returns wikipedia when you have "wiki" as a search term. Only an extra two characters.

That's not the same thing as the '!w' feature on DDG or the 'w' keyword bookmark. Once you Google 'wiki ', you have to click on the first link. Unless you set up an IFL search, in which case you might as well set up a Wikipedia search.

When you set up IFL search, you can use it for wiki, imdb, documentation, projects' homepages and dozens of other sites that you know you will find in the first spot. I have IFL as my default (w/o keyword) search. When I'm not so sure I just use keyword search (g for google and few others (but not wiki or imdb)).
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