What's that saying? "'If you're not paying for the product, you are the product'?" It comes to mind here.
Cloudflare Warp
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#42How does this compare to Private Relay? I’ve noticed most of the traffic goes through CF (where I live anyway)
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#43I’ve been a Warp+ user for some time now and I’m mostly happy.
My online privacy is important to me. I use ad blockers too in addition to cloudflare.
A couple of things I’ve noticed along the way…
1. Switching off my wi-fi network and then rejoining later used to be an issue but seems to have resolved some time ago (mobile) 2. It seems on macOS that almost every time I login I need to update the client. 3. Usually sites can’t resolve my IP and place me hundred of miles away which is fine by me. However occasionally I run across a site that has a pretty close to home read on my location. It seems sites that leverage cloudflare cdn might see a more accurate location because they are on the same network - I’m not sure how this works technically though.
I’ve never encountered a censorship situation or any website that was inaccessible. I have run into issues where steaming sites want you to turn off VPN but this isn’t consistent. I also run into issues occasionally when jumping on a hotel wi-fi or like a Lowes or Home Depot where they want you to agree to terms and likely want to snoop your traffic.
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#44Side note: double clicking on the background of this page changes between dark/light mode.
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#45Kinda uneasy about how Cloudflare is positioning themselves to have insight into a huge chunk of the Internet's traffic (very much like Google has). Even though there's no visible abuse right now, you know, Google's motto also used to be "don't be evil".
"Your ISP looks at which websites your browsing, oh the horror! Instead trust us, as an internet behemoth bigger than any ISP in the world with that data!"
I also don‘t really get their argument here?
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#46What's that saying? "'If you're not paying for the product, you are the product'?" It comes to mind here.
you can literally pay for the product (e.g., an ISP services) and still have meta data you generate bundled and sold.
the saying is overused and mostly misleading, unfortunately.
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#47We use Cloudflare Warp at work. Honestly—and I say this as a Cloudflare fan in general—it doesn’t work well for me. I regularly have connection issues with it enabled. Video calls sometimes cut out for a couple seconds, and Tuple (which I use a lot) really struggles with it. It’s possible it’s my internet connection or something unrelated, but I don’t have any of these issues when Warp is disabled. YMMV and all that,…
I use it for work as well. I have issues occasionally with it, but overall it's pretty stable. I'm in Michigan.
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#48> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…
This is a weird criticism. No person can guarantee that some other person in the future will or will not do something.
Maybe I wasn't clear. My criticism is this: they're logging the data. That leaves the door open to bad actors in the future, whether it's the next CEO, whether it's a government, or whether it's criminals who steal the data.
Pointing out that the company will revolve is not a criticism.
I do think it's kinda funny they are trying to oust your ISP and insert themselves, as the keeper of traffic logs. Either way, I guess we're going to choose a big corporation to trust.
Lastly, I don't think your point stands, when the quote says "we won't sell your data, EVER" (my emphasis)
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#49I’ve been a Warp+ user for some time now and I’m mostly happy. My online privacy is important to me. I use ad blockers too in addition to cloudflare. A couple of things I’ve noticed along the way… 1. Switching off my wi-fi network and then rejoining later used to be an issue but seems to have resolved some time ago (mobile) 2. It seems on macOS that almost every time I login I need to update the client. 3. Usually si…
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#50I have 20-100Mbps LTE and Warp made it worse, so no, thanks
It killed my 5G broadband speed too.