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Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by ColinHayhurst »

rvnx wrote: post #37
plaguepilled wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The short answer is that yes, Brave as a company does have some competing incentives which rightly should be constantly criticised, HOWEVER, Brave the browser performs well in multiple independent reviews of browser privacy. A nice one is https://privacytests.org/ , though there are also some academic studies which I will link if I find.

"Independent tests" PrivacyTests.org is run by a Brave employee (Arthur Edelstein) He is extremely smart person though, just that money can taint any good intentions easily. Especially in a very "shark" ecosystem.

Interesting. Wondered why results are displayed there as they are; the ones at the top look bad for Vivaldi, for example. Speaking of which Proton don't include Vivaldi. Perhaps as they have their own email client built right into their browser. Nope, I don't work for Vivaldi. It's one of several that I use.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by syndc8 »

Yizahi wrote: post #20
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #7

Protonmail and Brave do indeed seem like a good fit. Two somewhat sketchy, very commercial outfits that market themselves as more private than the competition and that will gladly break existing standards and practices to so. They also seem to attract surprisingly similar groups of users, including a larger-than-chance overlap. Protonmail, in particular, seems to have become a sort of running joke as the e-mail provi…

Can you recommend a paid mail service which is better? I'm in a search process now, to ditch google as much as I can, and was leaning towards Proton services.

I've been using Tutanota for the past several months, and the experience has been exceptional! I highly suggest checking them out. They even have free accounts now (when I signed up, it was pay-only).

https://tutanota.com/

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by k__ »

fzfaa wrote: post #32
Yizahi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sketchy part is being a Chrome clone while pretending to be a "different" browser.

You guys will eventually have to get over that old "blink is chrome" trope. The world has moved on. It's time that you do.

Yes, as if the rendering engine is the only part of a browser.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by sebow »

Kind of funny that they included Pale Moon, IceCat, and SeaMonkey but not ungoogled-chromium, which imo is effectively the best compromise between privacy & a modern usable browser -- the only downside is the hardship of installing extensions manually.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by Yizahi »

fzfaa wrote: post #32
Yizahi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sketchy part is being a Chrome clone while pretending to be a "different" browser.

You guys will eventually have to get over that old "blink is chrome" trope. The world has moved on. It's time that you do.

As soon as will see even a single real fork of the Chrome, I will of course call it a separate browser. Just like I called Safari if you saw above. Safari and Chrome grow from the same source years ago, but Apple decided to make a real own browser, not just tune some settings and add or remove plugins.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by wsername_with_w »

bongobingo1 wrote: post #21
openplatypus wrote: post #18

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

All I remember brave for is some crypto nonsense, and looking at wikipedia it seems they were doing some kind of suspect "content creator payments" that were opt-out and not forwarded? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers... At the face of it, it sounds like they had a "Donate to platypus" button but you'd only get the donations if you knew to sign up with them on the back end? Gross.

Why is it "nonsense"? Seems like a good thing to try and see if it works as a way to pay content creators. Maybe it doesn't, we will see. But why call it "nonsense"?

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by msh »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #7

Protonmail and Brave do indeed seem like a good fit. Two somewhat sketchy, very commercial outfits that market themselves as more private than the competition and that will gladly break existing standards and practices to so. They also seem to attract surprisingly similar groups of users, including a larger-than-chance overlap. Protonmail, in particular, seems to have become a sort of running joke as the e-mail provi…

Brave seems more that somewhat sketchy, like their rewriting of affiliate codes: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2020/06/06/the-brave-we...

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Post by drngdds »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #7

Protonmail and Brave do indeed seem like a good fit. Two somewhat sketchy, very commercial outfits that market themselves as more private than the competition and that will gladly break existing standards and practices to so. They also seem to attract surprisingly similar groups of users, including a larger-than-chance overlap. Protonmail, in particular, seems to have become a sort of running joke as the e-mail provi…

What's sketchy about Protonmail? It seems fine to me.
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