They won’t adopt RCS
I hope Apple never adopts RCS
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Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#42"RCS embraces the flaws of GSM, and Apple using it would be a step backwards." Nope. As RCS is better than SMS, adopting it would be a step forward. The whole article can be summed up to "RCS is not perfect, so it should not be used". Which is of course silly as RCS is better than the current option it replaces, SMS.
RCS is a step backward. At least SMS is a standard where as Google has their own proprietary version.
No it is not. RCS provides valuable features for users which are not present in SMS.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Part of reason in for many places outside US. There are no unlimited messages plan. edit: people seems to miss that I said that this is only part of the reason not the reason. I also said many places outside the US (not all). So do people down vote because they think that there are only US and EU in the world? I am missing that point.
Atleast in germany (almost?) every plan has unlimited messages nowadays. Even the cheapest prepaid plan. People still use WhatsApp, Signal, etc., because of media sharing and easy group conversations
Not in austria
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#44I'm not sure why this is being framed as an XOR situation? Why would RCS support imply removal of iMessage?
Surely RCS raises the lowest common denominator up a bit from SMS, and people are still free to use whatever 3rd party data-based messaging service they want to, be it iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal, Facebook Messenger, or whatever else, even ICQ if that still exists.
I don't think I've ever intentionally/deliberately chosen to use RCS, but (on my (Android) phone at least) it does seem to transparently turn itself on the very rare occasion when I send SMS messages (usually in reply to a received SMS), if supported by both phones.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#45RCS is inferior to iMessage simply because it doesn't work on tablets and desktop computers. Since RCS is tied to mobile carriers, who don't want to give up control over those juicy messages, the problem will persist forever.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Part of reason in for many places outside US. There are no unlimited messages plan. edit: people seems to miss that I said that this is only part of the reason not the reason. I also said many places outside the US (not all). So do people down vote because they think that there are only US and EU in the world? I am missing that point.
That's not true, unlimited SMS have been a thing for at least 15 years in Europe, well before WhatsApp became popular. In my experience, people switched to WhatsApp because of group chats and images (MMS were expensive).
Depends on the country. In Czechia, unlimited SMS plans used to be expensive.
That changed, but e.g. with my pre-paid plan I still pay 12 cents per SMS.
Historically there was also a problem that unlimited SMS plans worked only within a country. Now it's a bit better being EU-wide, but still not worry free.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#47Still find it incredible the green/blue bubble thing in the US isn’t a joke.
It is for 80% of people. I am already mid 30s, but I assume the only people who care are young people who use it as an in group vs out group signifier. Which, if not green and blue chats, would be something else. Everyone else simply uses WhatsApp if everyone does not have iMessage.
It is also an issue for Android users in general. In large group chat instantiated by an iPhone user, Android users may be unable to respond. My mother has encountered that on numerous occasions.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#48Who ever need carrier based messaging in the modern world? SMS moved to 2 factor mechanisms and other b2c needs.
Yep. I don't want mobile carriers to be anything but dumb pipes.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#49"RCS embraces the flaws of GSM, and Apple using it would be a step backwards." Nope. As RCS is better than SMS, adopting it would be a step forward. The whole article can be summed up to "RCS is not perfect, so it should not be used". Which is of course silly as RCS is better than the current option it replaces, SMS.
RCS is a step backward. At least SMS is a standard where as Google has their own proprietary version.
> At least SMS is a standard where as Google has their own proprietary [RCS] version.
AFAICT, the only thing "proprietary" about Google's RCS client implementation is E2EE: otherwise it's a fairly standard RCS client that can talk to any other RCS client.
I'd be happy if Apple did the same thing with iMessage (app): standard SMS/RCS client when sending to non-iMessage people, and 'fancy' client (blue bubbles) between iMesssage users.
Re: I hope Apple never adopts RCS
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is for 80% of people. I am already mid 30s, but I assume the only people who care are young people who use it as an in group vs out group signifier. Which, if not green and blue chats, would be something else. Everyone else simply uses WhatsApp if everyone does not have iMessage.
It is also an issue for Android users in general. In large group chat instantiated by an iPhone user, Android users may be unable to respond. My mother has encountered that on numerous occasions.
That might be a temporary technical issue, but I presume adults would just call each other and switch to Whatsapp so as to not make it a social issue like teens might by continuing to exclude someone.