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Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#41
Sigh. I really sympathize with this, and I totally think that analog is not dead and will never die. And vinyl records!

Despite that, I find that in own writing, I always think I'm going to initiate it on paper, but then I start writing fragments on the computer, thinking about them, revising, etc. etc. I lay it aside & think about it, and then revise some more. In the end, I think it's about as creative as pen-and-paper.

I hope. I should try the pen again just to make sure.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#43

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Why tho? Sure, there are some converters that are notably, notoriously small (Namiki Vanishing Point converters are infamous for this), but in those cases it's simple to use carts instead. (In the Namiki case, the carts last weeks and weeks.)

So you can use different inks other than compatible carts?

I use a syringe to refill cartridges from whatever bottle of ink I want to use. The cartridges can be reused many many times.

edit: lol, if I had reloaded the page before commenting, I would have seen all of these people saying the same thing!

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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People thinking pen and paper is simple have intentionally made it simple. Have you considered how many different kinds of paper/notebooks/slides/cards, kinds of pen/pencil/brush? Soon you'll start fiddling with your pens and papers, as some comments here have already started suggesting their personal favorite, including making your custom "eye dropper" pen. Taking the same approach to pen and paper, digital interfac…

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Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

idk op's specifics, but some pens use ink cartridges; by sealing the body of the pen, you can fill it with ink, have way more capacity and you can refill it.

Why tho? Sure, there are some converters that are notably, notoriously small (Namiki Vanishing Point converters are infamous for this), but in those cases it's simple to use carts instead. (In the Namiki case, the carts last weeks and weeks.)

> Why tho?

Just to expand on the time before refills. Most converters are under 1 ml. Having, say, 3-4 ml in your pen means you fill it a lot less frequently.

The thing keeping me away from eyedropping my pen is the inevitable burps.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why tho? Sure, there are some converters that are notably, notoriously small (Namiki Vanishing Point converters are infamous for this), but in those cases it's simple to use carts instead. (In the Namiki case, the carts last weeks and weeks.)

So you can use different inks other than compatible carts?

Most pens either ship with or will work with a piston converter. You don't need to mod a pen just to use inks other than those available in compatible cartridges.

E.g.,

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=fountain+pen+piston+convert...

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#47

Is Zettelkasten the new Getting Things Done yet? I feel like I'm seeing essays about How I Zettel with the same frequency I used to see essays about How I GTD back when 43folders was pioneering the genre of "productivity influencer". (edit: amusingly enough, I find this near the end: "I also mentioned Zettelkasten many times in this post, but I don’t do that anymore–I just did a 1-month dry run and it felt tiring.")

A comment from a few days ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32227826

Basically, over 90% of people invoking Zettelkasten do not know what it is. It's definitely not a tool suitable for most folks.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#48

I started bullet journaling with pen and paper and it has changed my life. Intentionality -- that's exactly right. When I write I feel intentional. I've also dove into the world of nice paper and fountain pens. I've always had hand cramps when writing, whether using a cheap Bic or a Pilot G7. With fountain pens, that's all gone, and writing is effortless. You can get started with this cheaply by getting a platinum pr…

> You want a fine or extra-fine nib, because anything else will feather and bleed on cheap paper, but fine or extra-fine works just fine on cheap paper.

It does depend on the ink, too. I have a Parker XF nib that will absolutely bleed through my notebook, which wasn't exactly cheap either. Not sure if it's supposed to be actually "good paper", though (Leichtturm), but I'm quite disappointed.

Diamine ink will take forever to dry on that paper and will be seen from the other side. And it's not even a particularly dark shade of blue. Regular supermarket-bought Parker ink (Quink washable blue) works much better.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#49
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why tho? Sure, there are some converters that are notably, notoriously small (Namiki Vanishing Point converters are infamous for this), but in those cases it's simple to use carts instead. (In the Namiki case, the carts last weeks and weeks.)

> Why tho? Just to expand on the time before refills. Most converters are under 1 ml. Having, say, 3-4 ml in your pen means you fill it a lot less frequently. The thing keeping me away from eyedropping my pen is the inevitable burps.

As I said, the only converter of mine that seems to have a capacity problem is the Namiki, but for practical reasons I also almost always run carts in that pen anyway.

I don't need a project, and I'm not super interested in locking a pen into a single mode of operation. The beauty of most pens is that you can go with carts OR with a converter, depending on mood. (Obviously some, like Pelikans and TWSBI, are bottle-fill only, but you know that going in.)

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you can use different inks other than compatible carts?

It is far easier to get a blunt nosed syringe for $0.10 (not sharpened for medical use) and use it to quickly and cleanly refill cartridges with whatever ink you want.

Isn't it even EASIER to get a converter?
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