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US Anti-Robocall Litigation Task Force

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If you’re on iOS, I highly recommend WideProtect [1] which allows you to define filters matching a range of numbers based on prefix. For example, you can block all numbers from a specific area code that you receive a lot of spam calls from. It has been an absolute lifesaver for me.

[1]: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wideprotect-spam-call-blocker/...

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Some weeks ago I broke my iPhone and had it replaced. During the process I had to get re-authorized with Verizon. They tried to call my partner to get her permission, since she's the account owner. Of course she never picked up the phone, because it was from an unknown caller.

The irony is incredible: the literal phone company cannot use their own product to contact their own customers, because they have let that product become a cesspool of spam.

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It is unfortunate that the cellular companies have allowed their core product (voice calls) to be so devalued that they need to be forced to solve this problem instead of just doing it naturally. The carriers are clearly customer-hostile, as this is really a very solvable problem. Instead, we now are moving to alternate mechanisms to manage audio calls (eg: Signal, Whatsapp, Facebook, etc.). My wide-open Verizon cell…

It kind of goes both ways, politicians "allowing" themselves to be lobbied by big telecom.

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Not trolling or being a bad HN citizen but:

Why did this take so long?

There are already laws on the books. New legislation (read: added time) isn't necessary. Everyone suffers from this problem. No one, sans the violators, is in favor of this problem. That is, it's a political win regardless of party, state, etc.

Yet after years of pin-prick torture there's going to be a task force?

I'm confused.

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90% of those scam calls originate from one city in India- Kolkata. It’s a state that has had communist rule for over 30 years and now a government which also runs on anti-corporate agenda. As a result there are no industries and all jobs have dried up in that state of West Bengal. This is the only industry left and the local government and police turn a blind eye since they get kickbacks and is the only source of inc…

This is the sadder but true point that we have too many people and many are stuck doing nonsense and scam work to try to feed their family.

I find your misanthropy surprising since the parent provided a clear explanation of the problem.

Nonetheless, it is a shame that they engage in such behavior and that they live under abusive government structures that funnel them into such things.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>My wide-open Verizon cell-phone number is my least preferred method of contact by far, due to the fact that I cannot trust that unknown numbers are high-value incoming calls. I thought it was a legal requirement for phone network operators to leave phone numbers accessible to all, and hence their inability to effectively fight spam. Otherwise, what would stop the situation from becoming like email, where email is mo…

What does “accessible to all” mean in this context? Why do I in Europe get almost zero spam calls or text while in the US it seems like a plague?

In Canada and while I do get some it’s fairly rare. Maybe 1 a month.

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A couple of weekends ago we got like 20 calls within 2 hours from the same scammer call center. I begged them to stop calling, telling the "agent" it was a waste of their time as they would not be able to scam me and it would be in their best interest to flag my number. I may have finally convinced one of them after talking to him more than once.

BUT... at the same time my wife called AT&T and kind of read them the riot act. We figured if everyone started complaining maybe they'd get their collective act together and start solving this. Overhearing the call, it sounded like the agent recommended moving to VOIP to gain access to tools to help cut this down.

If they can largely solve this on cell (we get maybe a 1/10th of the calls on cell) and voip, why can't they solve this for landlines? I suspect the industry has a vested interest to get us off of landlines/POTS.

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1) Let my filter out all calls not originating on an US/Canadian landline/mobile carrier 2) Yes, I’m happy to lose all calls that come via VoIP. 3) I don’t answer my phone anymore, so I miss those calls anyway 4) I’m very happy to sacrifice 1% of signal for 100% of noise

> 1) Let my filter out all calls not originating on an US/Canadian landline/mobile carrier

This, plus state/province level filtering as well would completely solve the issue for me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting that failed communist regimes often seem to be succeeded by kleptocracies. I wonder if any political scientists have studied this and can explain why.

You need an economist to explain it, not a political "scientist". Communism does not produce globally competitive industries. So the only thing left to do is either to steal and pillage what is left or work in an industry that has local demand like food or energy. Those tend not to be very attractive jobs.

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