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Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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> How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace There's a browser extension that automatically rejects cookies on these popups - https://consentomatic.au.dk/ . I've found it works for most websites.

> There's a browser extension that The problem with browser extensions is... you have to trust them.

I’m sure anyone installing an extension to make it easier to be tracked doesn’t care what the browser extension is doing either.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Sounds like they are adding cookies to their marketing landing pages for enterprise ads. Not that they are running ads on GitHub. Is there something more to this?

No, but people are looking for any reason to claim that MS has ruined GitHub so that the loud Twitter predictions they made during the acquisition aren't as embarrassing.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#43
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This is Microsoft we’re talking about here. They provide OSes and PowerPoint for the CIA laptops that plan extrajudicial assassinations and torture sites, and groupware for the concentration camps for children down in Texas; their blatant commercialism is perhaps the least gross thing about them. Imagine the most terrible dark patterns from LinkedIn (which they also own), and go self-host Gitea and move your repos.

So if CIA uses GNU/Linux and Libreoffice then should we gross out about Linux and stop using it? Microsoft might have billions of problems but CIA using windows and PowerPoint isn't one of them.

If the FSF becomes a CIA vendor, I'm definitely out. Your analogy doesn't quite make sense, though. Neither Linux nor GNU are vendors to anyone. If they were, it would throw enough of their mission into question that most people would stop supporting them and fork everything.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#44

There are tons of open source GitHub alternatives, why does opensource still use GitHub? Why does anyone?

Why does all academia do volunteer work and publish in journals owned by private companies with like a 70% profit margin?

Collective action is hard, and it's even harder when billionaires make conscious, organized efforts to disrupt it.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#45
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This tends to be an unpopular opinion here, but I agree completely. We had almost gotten rid of popups entirely, and now we have something worse, a required annoying banner that often causes the whole window to redraw and move around. Since untracked ads pay 80-90% less than tracked ones, they are borderline required by every site that requires advertising to survive (most websites). In a way I'm sure it's added to v…

The ad/pop-up blockers need to start also blocking the dumb modal windows for this. It might be easier too, there's financial insentive in breaking the blocker

uBlock Origin does this. Enable the "I don't care about cookies" list.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#46

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

The nuisance is an intentional choice by the bad actors in marketing to make you mad about the banner instead of their business practices of tracking you everywhere. Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense.

This is an utterly annoying failure of legislation. The law could have mandated that a standardized mechanism to opt in (or even out!) would be implemented by major browsers and the relevant standards, providing APIs for websites to integrate. It could have even been about that vague and still be more effective and less counterproductive. The actual legislation invites this sort of abuse. Understanding that the abuse is intentional is a component of understanding the situation. But the blame for it doesn’t absolve the law, it implicates it.

If the vague proposal I’m suggesting sounds outlandish, that’s more or less how every major browser implements other requests for intrusive APIs as a matter of protecting users. Even when they do it half-heartedly they do it by developing a standard with their more invested peers which is far less prone to universal abuse.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie? > Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense. How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

There are no laws in Australia requiring cookie banners, and yet I get hit with them constantly. So the law is clearly not the reason for these annoying banners.

The EU laws require the banners to be shown to all EU citizens regardless of the country they're in, right? I think the only way to be absolutely safe is to show cookie banners everywhere.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#48
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Payment gateway integrations might be one of the few legitimate non-advertising use cases I can think of for 3rd party cookies. What makes you say they don't need them?

Do you mean that if you reject the cookie then the transaction will fail?

If the use is required for the site to function, the data may be shared. The only ones you can reject are the ones that are not necessary, which usually involves ad trackers and similar things.

It should also be noted that these popups are likely not legal (or rather, they probably don't constitute informed consent under the the GDPR), but that's a completely different discussion to be had.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie? > Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense. How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

There are no laws in Australia requiring cookie banners, and yet I get hit with them constantly. So the law is clearly not the reason for these annoying banners.

Developer here. Its much easier and a lazy way to enable for everyone, rather than tracking ips, citizenship and show accordingly. Developers are lazy.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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> There's a browser extension that The problem with browser extensions is... you have to trust them.

I’m sure anyone installing an extension to make it easier to be tracked doesn’t care what the browser extension is doing either.

There's a sense in which cookies can't do any harms besides tracking, while a browser extension can do much worse.
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